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      09-03-2016, 06:32 PM   #1
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      09-04-2016, 01:26 PM   #2
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What was MSRP?
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Not trying to be a dick, but these can be found new for MSRP with little effort.
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I'm confused as to why you are selling it.. U can't drive it until January and don't want to make 4 Payments on it while not driving it?
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Can vouch for these cars! Driven my friends with just the track package and was an absolute blast! Not better than my f80 but different and just as good!
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I'm confused as to why you are selling it.. U can't drive it until January and don't want to make 4 Payments on it while not driving it?
I have a lower back issue and 3 or 4 cars that I daily. I could drive it in January but the temps here are 30 degrees at that time plus rain aka not fun. I didn't expect to get my 17' so late in the year.
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      09-04-2016, 06:26 PM   #7
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Not trying to be a dick, but these can be found new for MSRP with little effort.
Not true at all.

Used 16's (year old now) with the overheating technology package (no Trans or oil coolers) do go for MSRP..

The track proven ones aka. 16' track packs and 17's are easily above MSRP with 17's being the most wanted due to standard track packages and the new colors in addition to being newer.
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First, let me say I love the GT350. It was my first choice. The *only* reason I didn't get one is that the rear seats are useless, and I need a car that can take my three kids, often.

I was just looking at C/D performance numbers for the M4 and GT350. According to these numbers, the M4 is better in pretty much every category: 0-60, rolling start, 1/4 mi, braking. Skidpad is equal. And the M4 is 250 lb lighter. I know there is more to driving than the numbers, but, according to all the praise the GT350 gets, and its larger displacement V8, I sort of expected better.

Why do you say the Ford is the "way better performer?"
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      09-04-2016, 07:18 PM   #9
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First, let me say I love the GT350. It was my first choice. The *only* reason I didn't get one is that the rear seats are useless, and I need a car that can take my three kids, often.

I was just looking at C/D performance numbers for the M4 and GT350. According to these numbers, the M4 is better in pretty much every category: 0-60, rolling start, 1/4 mi, braking. Skidpad is equal. And the M4 is 250 lb lighter. I know there is more to driving than the numbers, but, according to all the praise the GT350 gets, and its larger displacement V8, I sort of expected better.

Why do you say the Ford is the "way better performer?"
Think of the comparison as..

the GT350 is like a S2000..

While the M4 is like an E46 ZHP. (best comparison I could figure out since I'm work)

The E46 obviously has amenities that *MIGHT* make it more comfy and it's still fun to drive and might even be a bit faster than a S2000 but it's NOWHERE NEAR as fun. I was driving an M4 for a year and never really liked it much. Noise is flat, torquey but under tired and would spin WAY too often. It had fun attributes but it's obviously the GT350 is more visceral and can hold corners better. I mean don't get me wrong, numbers count.. but when it comes down to it. a Bentley Continental is faster than an E46 M3.. but it's not fun.


The C/D numbers are a bit bogus. Cross check them with other magazines and you'll find many of them say M4 does this but in another mag is much slower akin to the M2 numbers that Motor trend or C/D put out.. (108mph trap speed like wtf)
Also, the GT350 accelerates faster than a stock M4 from a roll. It's 1st gear goes to 54mph so it's not exactly a quick to 60 kind of car. It traps 118mph or 119mph with a manual which are DCT M4 numbers.
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      09-05-2016, 12:47 AM   #10
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Not true at all.

Used 16's (year old now) with the overheating technology package (no Trans or oil coolers) do go for MSRP..

The track proven ones aka. 16' track packs and 17's are easily above MSRP with 17's being the most wanted due to standard track packages and the new colors in addition to being newer.
Uh. Yes true. Took me 2 phone calls to find a 2017 and negotiate MSRP. They started at 5k over but were quickly willing to do MSRP. So now I am being a dick. You have a used car and are trying to do an ADM, when in fact your car CAN be purchased for MSRP new. Just stop.
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Not true at all.

Used 16's (year old now) with the overheating technology package (no Trans or oil coolers) do go for MSRP..

The track proven ones aka. 16' track packs and 17's are easily above MSRP with 17's being the most wanted due to standard track packages and the new colors in addition to being newer.
Uh. Yes true. Took me 2 phone calls to find a 2017 and negotiate MSRP. They started at 5k over but were quickly willing to do MSRP. So now I am being a dick. You have a used car and are trying to do an ADM, when in fact your car CAN be purchased for MSRP new. Just stop.
Relax buddy. Then feel free to post that dealership info here! Please do post the info for any potential buyers here, I'm not even concerned. The car is already pending sale. Get off your high horse.
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      09-05-2016, 01:58 PM   #12
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Not true at all.

Used 16's (year old now) with the overheating technology package (no Trans or oil coolers) do go for MSRP..

The track proven ones aka. 16' track packs and 17's are easily above MSRP with 17's being the most wanted due to standard track packages and the new colors in addition to being newer.
Uh. Yes true. Took me 2 phone calls to find a 2017 and negotiate MSRP. They started at 5k over but were quickly willing to do MSRP. So now I am being a dick. You have a used car and are trying to do an ADM, when in fact your car CAN be purchased for MSRP new. Just stop.
Relax buddy. Then feel free to post that dealership info here! Please do post the info for any potential buyers here, I'm not even concerned. The car is already pending sale. Get off your high horse.
I have to agree with the above. A local dealer called me the other day from the GM saying "the gt350 market is dead, I'll sell you an allocation for MSRP". I have called many who are willing to sell for MSRP. Goodluck with sale
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      09-05-2016, 02:20 PM   #13
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dealers here in northern VA aren't budging much on ADMs. you'd think they were holding on cobras built by carrol shelby himself.

whatever gravy train (if there ever was one) is/will be coming to an end. and guess what, while you greedy stealerships were holding out for an clueless idiot to actually buy one with markup, actual serious buyers ready to pull the trigger have moved on.

i had a FB acquaintance associated with an dealership getting back to me after I inquired about one, but refused to pay markup. i'm like "sorry, i have moved on and in the middle of a deal for my next car".
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      09-05-2016, 03:51 PM   #14
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I wish the best to the OP, was only trying to be informative. To insist these cant be found new for MSRP simply is not true. If someone wants to pay $6k over sticker for a used 350, that's their business. I don't give out the dealers I talk with unless it's by PM. but I did talk with 2 in the Dallas area that quickly agreed to MSRP. I look at it this way, there are 29 17 GT350s for sale on cars.com within a 250 mile radius of me. There are 11 16 and 17 M3s. Why would I pay a markup on such a widely available car. They are all over the place. They did this same crap with the Boss 302. Dealer in my town wanted 10k over, I drove 90 miles and got one for MSRP.
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I wish the best to the OP, was only trying to be informative. To insist these cant be found new for MSRP simply is not true. If someone wants to pay $6k over sticker for a used 350, that's their business. I don't give out the dealers I talk with unless it's by PM. but I did talk with 2 in the Dallas area that quickly agreed to MSRP. I look at it this way, there are 29 17 GT350s for sale on cars.com within a 250 mile radius of me. There are 11 16 and 17 M3s. Why would I pay a markup on such a widely available car. They are all over the place. They did this same crap with the Boss 302. Dealer in my town wanted 10k over, I drove 90 miles and got one for MSRP.
You're not going to sell a car for cheaper than the used market is going for. If I see GT350's going for 45k, I'll set my price accordingly.. otherwise I'm going to stay competitive since in MY area.. there are 2 for sale in a 200 mile radius. both of which are 2016 Tech package going for 7 or 8 over. Either way, like I said, it's already pending sale for my asking price.
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      09-05-2016, 09:45 PM   #16
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i'll just leave this here...

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/5765177837.html
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      09-05-2016, 09:53 PM   #17
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Not sure why everyone is $hitting all over OP's post? He is free to ask whatever he wants...and if you are on this forum, you are an enthusiast and will do your own due diligence to see if the deal makes sense for you or not.
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Not sure why everyone is $hitting all over OP's post? He is free to ask whatever he wants...and if you are on this forum, you are an enthusiast and will do your own due diligence to see if the deal makes sense for you or not.
Very much agreed. I am not to going to sell it for what a few people feel it "should" go for.
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      09-05-2016, 10:45 PM   #19
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It will only sell for whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
I may sell at asking or it may have zero interest at all, only what the market will bear.
With that being said, I do believe the asking price is dealership level outrageous
These CAN be had at msrp with a little leg work and calling around
Glws though
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