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      03-14-2017, 07:30 PM   #45
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The conversation has come up multiple times as to whether or not one would ever swap an F80 for a Charger or Challenger Hellcat.

Well....???
Yes! In a heart beat!

If I was a billionaire, had a 2020 m3 on order as well as a garage of other cars from porsches to rolls to BMW etc....

I would put the Liberty Walk kit on it to make it bad ass...


But if I wasn't a billionaire... no chance in hell.(cat)
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I came from the dodge world and it was a very fun car to drive. it was not a hellcat but was a scatpack. I drove the hellcat on several occasions and it is a beast! I was considering the hellcat as their lease programs now are amazing. it 60% residual with a 0.000183 money factor for 10k mile lease.

I walked away from this deal because of the M3 I decided to go with. The hellcat is nice but lacks luxury. powerwise.... no comment. only with a few mods you are in the 900whp to 1000whp range. Parts are cheaper to get and it attracts a lot of attention.

Good luck with your purchase if you decide to go with it
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      02-09-2019, 09:32 AM   #47
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I will be in the market for my next car very soon and the M3 is at the top of the list so far. The only reason the Hellcat isn't on the list is because they don't make a 6mt for the charger.

Some of these responses make me sad to be a BMW owner. Believe it or not, other car makes produce some fine cars. Imo the Hellcat is a nice car.
It isn't that most people here probably hate the Hellcat (at least I hope not) it is the comparison is wrong.

American cars, especially Charger/Challenger/Camaro/Mustang are muscle cars for different crowds. A German car is for another crowd. When you buy/search for an new car you don't put these together.

These cars are different for a reason. People who has the annoying habit of shoving four door cars together aren't generally shopping their cars properly or just don't know what they want.
Exactly - I don't think its hate in most cases - but different subcategories of cars. I personally don't hate the Hellcat/Charger/Challenger - but I want something that's better suited for the track and more adept in the handling department. Sure the Hellcat is faster in a straight line - but like everyone else said - nobody forced me to get an M3 over the Hellcat...
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      02-09-2019, 04:09 PM   #49
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Go to the Dodge forum and post "would you trade your Hellcat for an M3" I guarantee the answer would be the resounding "hell(cat) no!" I think these threads are silly, If everyone wanted to drive only an M3, then there would be only one car maker in the world. Everyone likes what they like for a reason. The Hellcat fits a certain driver. I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast with the guy from Gas Monkey Garage (discovery channel car builder). He loves Dodge and even does there commercials because its his style of car. Rogan asked him about M3s and he had no clue what a "E46 M3" was. He had no clue about anything M3 at all. The Hellcat was sold out for a while with backed up orders and I know demons was selling out for way over sticker too.. Every car has a fan club and a purpose, you just happen to like M3s like I do.
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CS for a hellcat no way!!
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      02-10-2019, 09:30 AM   #53
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CS for a hellcat no way!!
It was a question not for a CS but for a f8x none comp pack '15 or early prod '16
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When searching for a vehicle the interior is important to me as well as other aspects. I find the interior of American cars to be boxed and very plastic like. German is luxurious and will always go that route.
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CS for a hellcat no way!!
It was a question not for a CS but for a f8x none comp pack '15 or early prod '16
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I will be in the market for my next car very soon and the M3 is at the top of the list so far. The only reason the Hellcat isn't on the list is because they don't make a 6mt for the charger.

Some of these responses make me sad to be a BMW owner. Believe it or not, other car makes produce some fine cars. Imo the Hellcat is a nice car.
It isn't that most people here probably hate the Hellcat (at least I hope not) it is the comparison is wrong.

American cars, especially Charger/Challenger/Camaro/Mustang are muscle cars for different crowds. A German car is for another crowd. When you buy/search for an new car you don't put these together.

These cars are different for a reason. People who has the annoying habit of shoving four door cars together aren't generally shopping their cars properly or just don't know what they want.
Exactly - I don't think its hate in most cases - but different subcategories of cars. I personally don't hate the Hellcat/Charger/Challenger - but I want something that's better suited for the track and more adept in the handling department. Sure the Hellcat is faster in a straight line - but like everyone else said - nobody forced me to get an M3 over the Hellcat...
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CS for a hellcat no way!!
It was a question not for a CS but for a f8x none comp pack '15 or early prod '16
Still no way for me. Hellcat is cool but just so massive and not nimble or connected enough for me. If I wanted bigger M5 comp for me.
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      02-12-2019, 06:08 PM   #56
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Always depends on the deal 😎

I would do it for the right price. My daily commute to work is one traffic light after the other one, so why not? My M4 never saw a Racetrack either.
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      02-13-2019, 10:06 PM   #57
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Why all the hate?

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      02-14-2019, 11:14 AM   #58
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No hate here. Almost pulled a trigger on a hellcat charger a few times. The engine and supercharger whine is intoxicating. Far more fun to be a hooligan in the hellcat. In the end, the superior interior, exterior, handling and manual transmission made hard choice of getting a m3 over a cat easier. Plus I drive 20k miles a year so itís way more comfortable to be in a m3 than charger. Had I chosen the cat I would be happy as well, just a different kind of happy.

I donít think most true car enthusiasts would hate on a hellcat. The ones that do arenít the type of enthusiasts you want to really talk to anyway.

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Iíll keep my f80 all day long everyone has a hellcat and also not my type I like European cars and hellcat looks the same as any other challenger really letís be honest the 4 series to m4 is a drastic change.
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I did a quick search.... 10.9@126 with drag radials for the hellcat

Is that right? I thought it would be 130+ traps with that much power.

Hope they put that engine in a 3000lb all out sports car instead of 4500lb porker
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Wouldn't have said yes before, but certainly not after seeing this:



https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/14/...g-strip-video/
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Why all the hate?

Hellcat drivers are the type of guys who photoshop blurs instead of using the right lens!

lol jk

Not hating on it, it definitely was a consideration a few years ago. However, if I wanted a Hellcat, I would have gotten a Hellcat. They are beasts, but there were other boxes to check.
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Lol. I had a SRT years ago and loved it. It reminded me of driving my 1970 Buick Skylark. Looking over that giant hood. It sounded so Merica.

My Brother and Dad both have Charger hellcats and have tracked them. They do very well despite their weight. Modern auto's shift almost as fast as true DCT's, and with so much torque on tap, you don't need to shift as much anyways.

Personally I'm not a fan of the Charger body style, and don't want to think about parking downtown, but it was on my list. Ultimately I figured blowing past them in a car that is more than a thousand lbs less would be more fun and so went for another //M with plans to tune.
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Because this is what you are really driving
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Had both at the same time. The Hellcat was more "raw" and way more fun to drive but the M3 was overall the better car.

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I would never replace my m3 with a hellcat. That being said, a black hellcat has to be the most intimidating car I've ever seen in my rear view mirror, and definitely makes me move over. Would love to own one if I had the extra space and budget.
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