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      12-31-2013, 12:16 AM   #111
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M3 takes the win.
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      12-31-2013, 12:36 AM   #112
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Just wait until you see the car in real life, it will surprise you.
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      12-31-2013, 12:41 AM   #113
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      12-31-2013, 12:46 AM   #114
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Hmmm, another underwhelming photo of the F82 again in contrast to the earlier MW F80. I can see the skepticism on whether to pull the trigger on a car that doesn't quite have the visual package to match road performance.

As stated earlier, M cars are about pure driving performance. Yet at the same time, the wrapping should compliment the performance not undermine it. I will wait to see both cars live and drive them. On just the photos alone, the M3 communicates the performance package much better than the M4. Agree with the earlier comment, looks like an F32.

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      12-31-2013, 01:37 AM   #115
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Funny you said that I was thinking the same. My 08 is lower than this . Is this M4 Xi
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Seems like the trend...
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      12-31-2013, 03:27 AM   #116
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I'm still impartial to the front end and even the shot from the side when looking at the front looks awkward but I think it does look good from all other angles and based on these pictures I think I may be able to warm up to it one day.

I still haven't seen anything from a competitor that gives the same entire package as the M3/4 and looks as good so when the time comes I know Ill be getting into one.
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I am hitting Regensburg this weekend,hopefully I run in to one as well.
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I don't know what it is... but it is a fact that most Germans either buy a silver car or a dark color car. When I have toured various factories over here... they say the same thing. I remember MB saying that over 60% of their production is in black and about 18% in silver. Then that 22% is all the "other" colors they offer.

You know all German Taxi's are painted that beige color. About ten years ago when wrap jobs became more common place... the Taxi owners figured out they could order a dark color car or a silver one(!) and wrap the taxi in that beige wrap... then when the time came to sell their taxi... people would buy them! No one wants a beige car, not even a cheap used car in beige! lol This is why when you see a bunch of Taxi's parked at an airport or train station - the driver has removed one bumper or cover of the wrap - to expose the original color. So he or she can identify his car parked among the many taxi's! lol

Dark color cars sell over here in Germany. No one drives a red or yellow car. Those are for the fire dept or ambulance services. lol Its dark blues and blacks and silver cars for Deutschland.
Dack agree with you.

But wanting to say something important.

What about brown colors that are gaining popularity in Germany?
Via-KBA Kraftfahrt-Bundesamt specifically according to BMW:
Sales per month November 2013.*
1*Black
2*Grey
3*White
4*Blue
5*Brown
6*Red

I thought I would have more success browns in U.S. than in Europe.

You could bet that Germany is the European country where cars are sold more brown than in any other European region. True or false?

Together with BMW, Audi and VW sold their cars there nicely brown.

Which of these colors again ? i
Havanna or Sparkling Bronze or Marrakesch Brown?
Titanium Silver or Glacier Silver or Space Grey?
Imperial Blue or Deep Sea Blue or Midnight Blue?

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This car will not hold up as long as the e92 has, imp looks old already.
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      12-31-2013, 07:48 AM   #120
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I'm still impartial to the front end and even the shot from the side when looking at the front looks awkward but I think it does look good from all other angles and based on these pictures I think I may be able to warm up to it one day.

I still haven't seen anything from a competitor that gives the same entire package as the M3/4 and looks as good so when the time comes I know Ill be getting into one.
Corvette stingray is faster more of a true sports car and I'm sad to say interior is nicer and cost less money.
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      12-31-2013, 12:13 PM   #121
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Can't wait to see these hit the street.
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Just wait until you see the car in real life, it will surprise you.
This ^^^^^ x100
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      12-31-2013, 03:29 PM   #123
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Dack agree with you.

But wanting to say something important.

What about brown colors that are gaining popularity in Germany?
Via-KBA Kraftfahrt-Bundesamt specifically according to BMW:
Sales per month November 2013.*
1*Black
2*Grey
3*White
4*Blue
5*Brown
6*Red

I thought I would have more success browns in U.S. than in Europe.

You could bet that Germany is the European country where cars are sold more brown than in any other European region. True or false?

Together with BMW, Audi and VW sold their cars there nicely brown.

Which of these colors again ? i
Havanna or Sparkling Bronze or Marrakesch Brown?
Titanium Silver or Glacier Silver or Space Grey?
Imperial Blue or Deep Sea Blue or Midnight Blue?
I rarely see any brown cars. Like I said the number one color I see is Silver and Grey colored cars in Germany. Then Black or dark blues that look like black from afar.

About two or three years ago when BMW was offering that Marrakesh Brown on the e81 two door hatch and the X1. But you hardly ever see those colors. I think they were only a flash fad. Go look at the rental car fleets of SIXT, Europecar, AVIS, ect... you will see what sells by the way they order their rental fleet sales.
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I am hitting Regensburg this weekend,hopefully I run in to one as well.
You did not notice that Werkstestwagen had Munich plates? You might be better heading for Garching or the FIZ.
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Just wait until you see the car in real life, it will surprise you.
I agree. I have already seen five prototypes driving around - over the last year or so. The car has a presence on the street. heck, even on the Autobahn! People look to see what it is.

And the sound.... is just mean - even with the windows rolled up and following far behind - the exhaust growl is mean.
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      12-31-2013, 03:34 PM   #126
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Just wait until you see the car in real life, it will surprise you.
+1 And this one still don't have CFRP roof too
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      12-31-2013, 03:42 PM   #127
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Corvette stingray is faster more of a true sports car and I'm sad to say interior is nicer and cost less money.
I agrree, but the vette is a two seater, different class of car, in my opinion they shouldnt be compared and I'm just not a corvette kinda guy.
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I agrree, but the vette is a two seater, different class of car, in my opinion they shouldnt be compared and I'm just not a corvette kinda guy.
although i think its fair to say that people buying a M4 coupe might also look at a vette.

i mean just look at a C7 thread. lots of M3 guys are interested. consumers or customers will compare the cars.
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Corvette stingray is faster more of a true sports car and I'm sad to say interior is nicer and cost less money.
Is the interior really nicer? I'm just asking since I've not been in it. Does it feel like higher quality materials and is more logical and beautiful than a full leather appointed BMW? I really hope the answer is yes since it's about time.
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i am sorry but which performance are you referring too, current mustang 5.0 has same performance as the current m3 and its 25-30k cheaper, i am just saying, i am a BMW fan too but come on, everyone here is OMG car is soo good to me it looks like an overpriced m-sport model w quad exhaust thats 10-20k more than a regular 3 or 4 series,remember its Marketing now not Motorsport
Performance can relate to many aspects of the car such as top speed , dynamics , steering etc.. The M4 Coupe is anything but an overpriced , glorified 435i.
I do not know the answer in the USA but people in Europe will probably want an M4 before even considering a Mustang.
Well, e92 ///M3 was 80% different ten the e92 335i.....while the F82 is just over 50% different from its 435i sibling.

So really, the cars seem to be getting more similar......just saying. They are not the same, but you can see why some will think there is not enough separation to justify the premium.

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Well, e92 ///M3 was 80% different ten the e92 335i.....while the F82 is just over 50% different from its 435i sibling.

So really, the cars seem to be getting more similar......just saying. They are not the same, but you can see why some will think there is not enough separation to justify the premium.

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Just out of curiosity, where are you getting the 80% figure from? I didn't see an 80% difference between an E90 ///M and non-///M or E92 ///M and non-///M respectively.
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Just out of curiosity, where are you getting the 80% figure from? I didn't see an 80% difference between an E90 ///M and non-///M or E92 ///M and non-///M respectively.
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