Best F80 M3 and F82 M4 videos yet - Hard/aggressive driving on the Nurburgring

Falafel Combo · 07-22-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerjph

Glad to see some proper development is being done.

DASHOCKER · 07-22-2013, 08:55 PM

Looking at the vid again, this car is seriously quicker and better planted than the e90 m3. Very impressive bmw.

ProbyOne · 07-22-2013, 08:55 PM

That sounds like 8000 rpm to me

ilya335 · 07-22-2013, 09:21 PM

It looks fast!

Supracg135 · 07-22-2013, 09:32 PM

Looks PLANTED, not to mention rounding the ring successively with a turbo'd engine (apparently a high rpm one!) requires very efficient cooling, from the intercoolers to oil etc.

I like what Im seeing so far. A high rpm, properly cooled turbo engine is rare to come by by any standard. If its hitting 8k rpm and those turboes are still feeding solid boost that high, yet still give proper boost in the low end, the engineering behind this engine should be very respected.

positiveions · 07-22-2013, 09:39 PM

More agile, I like that.

auaq · 07-22-2013, 09:52 PM

Sounds better, looks better, better than better.

Stop comparing the exhuast note to the S65. Just get over with it!

hellrotm · 07-22-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ProbyOne

That sounds like 8000 rpm to me

No it doesn't.

hellrotm · 07-22-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by auaq

Stop comparing the exhuast note to the S65. Just get over with it!

Yup. Just starting to accept the fact it will never sound like the S65.

cmk227 · 07-22-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kgroschi

Sounds bad compared to the E9x M3s.... Sorry to be another hater but that's just how it is imo. Also, there is no nice induction noise like on the E60 M5 or the E9x M3, where you knew already from far away what is about to come down the road.

Agree. I will most likely buy the new car but will miss the sound of the s65.

hellrotm · 07-22-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ramuman

I'm not sure how many people have heard the F1x M5/6 in person on a track that complain about the current exhaust noises. For certain, it'll be awhile before the induction/exhaust noise of the S65 is beaten. However, the M5/6 sound great from the outside.

The S63tu "fart" on upshifts sounds far deeper and menacing in person compared to videos.

The M6 Gran Coupe safety car at the MotoGP race didn't sound loud in person. I was quite surprised how quiet it actually was. I believe it had an Akrapovic exhaust as well.

US///M3 · 07-22-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NISFAN

It doesn't sound anything like an inline 6

Two bad things:

There is a lot of under steer sound

The gearing looks long like M5/6, ECO gearing. :thumindown

Other than those it looks awesome. How do you apply to become a BMW test driver?

+1

The understeer is kind of expected in a stock M3, too much front negative camber and the poseurs will be calling BMW NA bitchin about the excessive front tire wear on the inside.

MilehighM3 · 07-22-2013, 10:44 PM

There's a lot more induction noise than I had anticipated. Sounds similar to an S54. Looking good BMW, keep up the good work!

verbs · 07-22-2013, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

No it doesn't.

Not to say that it won't be capable in final guise, but I didn't hear 8000rpms on the track.

pkimM3r · 07-23-2013, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FogCityM3

I dont know, very subjectively judging from the N-ring footage of the F80, looks more nimble, planted, and easier to play with vs the E9xs Ive seen. Wonder if there may be some active steering or different suspension setup vs predecessors.

The f30 is the same way compared to the e90. May not "feel" as sportyas fhe e90 but if you actually push the snot out of it, its definitely better.

Jblack4083 · 07-23-2013, 12:51 AM

The noise. Everyone complains about it... I don't think its a bad sounding car. It seems like while daily driving this on the street it will have a very good sound presence with its deep and bassy exhaust. The E9X sounds amazing in the upper RPMs but really lets down when doing casual driving on the street. I've always liked how the E9X M's sound like a fast car, far away, even when they're close to you but sometimes its underwhelming.

This car sounds great and will command a presence at all RPMs it seems. What's interesting is that the prototypes dont all sound the same...

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Originally Posted by PTA85

at 3:08 Not sure if it is another car but when he gets off the gas and on the brakes you can hear the blow-off valve pretty clearly. Might be imagining things lol.

That noise is most likely the ceramic brakes. I could be wrong but I believe the BMW turbo engines use diverter valves not blow off valves.

aajami · 07-23-2013, 12:53 AM

It looks fast as hell, no doubt. But I'm sorry, that is not how an M car is supposed to sound. Not in the least.

THE-FN-MAN · 07-23-2013, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by aajami

It looks fast as hell, no doubt. But I'm sorry, that is not how an M car is supposed to sound. Not in the least.

+1 kinda underwhelmed

The Automotive Enthusiast · 07-23-2013, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo629

is it me or the car has minimal body roll flying out of those corners?

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Maddict3 · 07-23-2013, 01:57 AM

wow! i cant wait, I will def be putting in an order for a M4

sensi09 · 07-23-2013, 02:21 AM

Probably mentioned already, but the 1m style front bumper looks interesting.

THE JEDI · 07-23-2013, 03:07 AM

Don't yell at me..but man it just sound YECk..after gearing the V8 on th last M3..just nasty..car looks great,, handles stay on the ground like a champ and the way she takes the curves awesome..and yes I know she has come a long way..I just love the sound that v8 gives off..other than that I'll take mine Mineral Gray..with the Convertible

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