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I have a few thoughts:
1. It looks horrible. 2. Here in Europe the 430 hp version costs $25000 more than the M3 3. It's Italian so it will break My last thought is NO!
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i saw one in person for the first time last week....on the freeway. firstly it looked a lot better in person than in the photographs and secondly i think it's more on par with the size of the 5-series than of the F80.
I am sure the Ghibli is a nice car to drive and own.....it has that italian enthusiasm that you can never find in German cars. That being said, if you are more concretely dedicated to driving dynamics, the Ghibli would be a more passive experience rather than an overly active one. |
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BMW reliability is middle-of-the-road. Maserati's not so much. Would never work as a DD.
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I would be floored if they were even close in anything but straight line performance
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The Ghibli really competes w the CLS, A7 and 6-series Grand Coupe if you speak within the industry. Last month it beat all 3 models in monthly sales. Yes 5-Series and E-class buyers might defect but it's that new class of sedans that the Ghibli targets. For a car that starts at $67k I think it's compelling for the luxury sedan buyer. Let's face it a huge part of the population buys on brand/ exclusivity vs technology. I can't be the only guy that bought their girlfriend/ wife a $3,000 purse based on label only to say "seriously I'm over paying by $2,700"
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The interior has a ton of parts taken from Chrysler, which a few people have mentioned. Its the same Uconnect/touchscreen nav setup as in my dad's new 14' cherokee summit. In fact, a lot of the parts in the car are similar. It's not "super tacky" but it definitely doesn't have the fit and finish of its true maserati brethren.
I drove one in December, its really nice to be behind the wheel of and the exhaust sounds AMAZING. Way better than any of the videos I've seen of the m3/m4 so far. This video is way too long but just listen to the revs at the beginning, its pure sex. . .
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OR 2--- The 3 and 5 Series are almost indistinguishable from each other inside and out, the C-Class looks like a "mini S-Class" or Audi's entire product line looks the same just in different sizes? What's the bigger concern of most people looking for exclusivity when buying a premium car? The interior parts bin/ platform sharing OR the exterior package?
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dang, you guys are giving the Ghibli a blood bath.
It's not bad, but certainly not a bmw competition IMHO. where is the track record. Last time Maserati left USA was due to poor sale and build quality.
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I think, in general, most consumers really don't put reliability as a #1 differentiator... If they did, the poor reliability scores of BMW would have had a much bigger impact on sales over the last few years.
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I have a deposit on an M4 but recently test drove the ghibli Q4s. Now that the bmw dealer has made a great lease offer on a loaded M5 (sapphire w orange -- live it) I've got a tough decision to make!!
I'm not going to run through all the pros and cons--cars speak to people's needs in different ways. The M5 is definitely the better car than maser. It's a huge improvement over the f10 with smg. But I wouldn't completely dismiss it unless you've driven one. The sound is unbelievable--every head snaps around to look! But the car can also be driven pianissimo, like on date night. The maser is a 4 door coupe, so that's why it takes some getting used to the look. It's between the m3 and m5 size wise, but the weight is right up there with m5. With the sport suspension and 19 inch tires it handles very well, but not in m5's league, and def not in m3/4 league. Maser really gets the color combos right. The interiors are a bit <. The colors are great, but the materials aren't up to m5. Clearly they borrowed Chrysler parts. But that might be okay. Bottom line, the sound and style is intoxicating. But will it work. Had my f10 3 years and I had to take it to shop once other than scheduled maintenance. Awd a good thing here in Boston tho, but this is not a Quattro. Lots more soul than an audi that's for sure. |
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Not bonovox but people are getting ~$1000-1100 for a well-optioned M5 on the lot. Up to $13k off sticker, 61% residual (3 year, 10k miles/yr).
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