Comparison: F80 M3 versus E90 M3 Sedan

[hwelvaar]

Great comparison. Thanks.

The new M3 means business.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by ixse

too bad all e90 can do is sound angry. not saying the car is slow, just not fast enough

and i agree. the car is not that fast, its last gen M3.

i will probs move on to something faster than a M4 next car though.

[secono330ci]

Very nice

[S65V8]

both beautiful cars, E90 is dated but lines are still looking solid, and love its minimalist look vs. the F80,which I think is a beautiful evolution of the E90 look (sans the rear bumper, trying a tad too hard there...yikes)

[FogCityM3]

Love the new M3 and like the taillights better. However, over time will be interesting to see if rounded/smooth ages better than angular and sculpted. So far history has tended to favor the latter.

[Law]

Originally Posted by US///M3

Your E46 M3 looks great and I remember all those threads with members saying how the E9X M3 made the E46 M3 look dated.
The E46 M3 lines dont look anymore dated than the new Porsche 918.

Thank you & there is much truth to your statement.
The E46 (and the E39) will always represent the period when design perfectly balanced tradition with modernity, form with function. They are neither too boxy, nor too round; neither too sharp-edged, nor too curvy. Understated yet aggressive. Simple yet sophisticated. Just right.

We will always see the same pattern whenever a newer version of whatever we have is released. The old ones will still be special, but the new ones will almost always be better. Whether or not emotionally they are winners is a different story.


Unfortunate that I sold the E46 almost 2 months ago.
Wanted to keep it for track duty while I would DD with the E90. But my post-college priorities has got me to focus on better financial decisions.
The E46 M3 will always have a special place in my heart & memory and I do plan on picking up another pristine one in the future, although i do love the E90 as well!

[dreamspeed]

- The CF strut bar is AWESOMESAUCE

- I like the F80 seats and steering wheel

- CF interior trim is still cool but a bit played out and "common" now, the carbon leather trim is more unique

- The F80 styling is starting to grow on me and definitely more aggressive than the the E92.

- I'm biased obviously but I still think the E92 M3 is the best looking M3 yet.

- I really hope the M3/M4 puts BMW back at the top since the recent 3/5/6 series haven't exactly been dominating the competition lately

[dhirm5]

F80 looks amazing. Love it.

[ESC OFF]

The evolution of a great car, kudos BMW!

[Kaxon]

Man, I HATE those seat emblems. Having that thing pressing into your spine is not going to be comfortable. Almost everything else about the car seems great, too...

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Kaxon

Man, I HATE those seat emblems. Having that thing pressing into your spine is not going to be comfortable. Almost everything else about the car seems great, too...

I hate the perforated squares throughout the center of the seat more than the emblems.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by Evice

3rd Picture has the fuel door on the driver side. LOL. Photochop mistake.

Dude, he flipped the image so that the cars lined up in the same direction.

[khanyam4]

Originally Posted by termigni

Love the new M3. I approve. E90 never hit me with WOW factor as E46M did back in 2000. Now the F80 has that WOW factor.

This right here. A lot of interesting comment.

[BMWinGE]

^ I agree, we really need a way to distinguish between the assholes and non-assholes in these threads!

[vampire81]

the current M3 still has its thing

[dreamspeed]

Originally Posted by I am Earl

I have read every single post in this thread and have realized something very interesting:

* More than 99% of the people who liked the new car currently do NOT own an M3.
* Almost not a single person who currently owns an M3 liked the new car over the old one (except one person).

(I completely apologize for this because I know how this is going to sound) I genuinely think that we should have a way of distinguishing people who come here to just to post, who will probably never not even test drive an M3 let alone buy one from the ones who will be able to afford the car. On top of that, I "wish" we had a way for putting more emphasis on the opinions of people who currently do own an M3. I think what they have to say about the new car is more important than someone who has no intentions to own it.

I think if we had a cut and dry distinction people these two groups of people, you'd see a major shift in perspective and opinion on the new car which could raise some eyebrows in BMW.

A lot of similar comments were seen all over the web in 2006 and all those "opinionated" arm chair theorists disappeared soon after E9X was released and continued to drive whatever it was they were driving. Maybe less than 1% of the participants in these threads ended up buying the car and for all intents and purposes, I could care less what those other people think (and neither should BMW unless they want it to look like everyone likes their car).

This would actually be a good idea if people weren't so EMO PC nowadays

[WWM3]

I can't stand how those who prefer older models are labeled biased or envious. Newer isn't always better. I could care less if a car looks "dated". I think there are designs from the past and the present that are appealing.

In this case, I think both cars look great.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by WWM3

I can't stand how those who prefer older models are labeled biased or envious. Newer isn't always better. I could care less if a car looks "dated". I think there are designs from the past and the present that are appealing.

In this case, I think both cars look great.

Yeah dated does not mean worse.

Dated:



Modern:

[reborn]

Originally Posted by Nordstat

The e9x front end looks as good as it was first released. It looks distinctly European, classy, and aggressive. The new one looks like a Japanese aftermarket body kit. New, yes, but not what I would consider an upgrade by any means. And the new hood dome...really, a giant square? Doesn't really go well with the rest of the design IMHO. The interior is definitely an upgrade...with my personal exceptions of the "M" logos on the seats and the iPad sticking out of the dash like it was an afterthought ("oh wait, we need a nav system....lets put it HERE!")

The F80 is a technological achievement for sure, but the exterior is too busy (with too many "air curtains" that 99.9% of drivers will never see the benefit of), too trendy, and a design that will not have a place in the annals of "beautiful" cars. You look 20+ years from its release and I really don't think the e9x will look as dated as its age may suggest.

I'm waiting for the next model year and seeing if they fix what I feel are faults with the car...and LOVING my e90 in the meantime!

My $0.02

+1

[khanyam4]

Originally Posted by I am Earl

I have read every single post in this thread and have realized something very interesting:

* More than 99% of the people who liked the new car currently do NOT own an M3.
* Almost not a single person who currently owns an M3 liked the new car over the old one (except one person).

(I completely apologize for this because I know how this is going to sound) I genuinely think that we should have a way of distinguishing people who come here to just to post, who will probably never not even test drive an M3 let alone buy one from the ones who will be able to afford the car. On top of that, I "wish" we had a way for putting more emphasis on the opinions of people who currently do own an M3. I think what they have to say about the new car is more important than someone who has no intentions to own it.

I think if we had a cut and dry distinction people these two groups of people, you'd see a major shift in perspective and opinion on the new car which could raise some eyebrows in BMW.

A lot of similar comments were seen all over the web in 2006 and all those "opinionated" arm chair theorists disappeared soon after E9X was released and continued to drive whatever it was they were driving. Maybe less than 1% of the participants in these threads ended up buying the car and for all intents and purposes, I could care less what those other people think (and neither should BMW unless they want it to look like everyone likes their car).

Why are you so serious?

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by solstice

Yeah dated does not mean worse.

Dated:



Modern:

that "dated" engine gives me chills.

[e90mbition]

you people gotta admit the f80 is definitely better in every aspect.

i had the e46 and now the e90 and looking at f80, i think its smoking hot. HOWEVER the E46 is the best car for its era and will always have a special place in my heart. In terms of handling, looks and fun, the E46 is the winner to me even if its a 10 year old car, i will one day own one again.

BTW i don;t really like my e90 lol Id rather pop back into a e46 m3