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      09-13-2019, 02:26 AM   #23
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After seeing the new 4 concept doesn’t it look super dated?
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      09-13-2019, 06:28 AM   #24
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18"s are so underrated. Wheels continue to get bigger, it seems, with every new generation that comes out. 19"s and 20"s certainty look the part but unfortunately, performance is sacrificed considerably. My car is faster (in a straight line) with 18" Apex snow tire setup than the stock 19" 437M summers.

Those of you who are looking to shed weight from his/her fat modern BMW, go down a wheel size or two. You'll definitely feel the difference.
Plus if you're really going for "because race car" then a square 18" setup truly looks the business.
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      09-13-2019, 07:39 AM   #25
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18"s are so underrated. Wheels continue to get bigger, it seems, with every new generation that comes out. 19"s and 20"s certainty look the part but unfortunately, performance is sacrificed considerably. My car is faster (in a straight line) with 18" Apex snow tire setup than the stock 19" 437M summers.

Those of you who are looking to shed weight from his/her fat modern BMW, go down a wheel size or two. You'll definitely feel the difference.
Plus if you're really going for "because race car" then a square 18" setup truly looks the business.
I do see your point, only thing is for newer cars that have carbon ceramic brakes for track use, I don't think 18" will fit on them though. Not sure if you would get less unsprung weight with 19s and cc brakes vs 18 and regular M brakes.
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Can you really say the wheels have a "aggressive & flush appearance" when you have to run spacers with them? Also, are those wheels truly forged?
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Beautiful setup. 18's work great unless you're on stock suspension height... Love this!
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      09-13-2019, 10:12 AM   #29
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perfect little track car
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      09-13-2019, 11:27 AM   #30
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Looks great and refreshing. Well done. Pitty bmw did not provided similar driving feel like previous m on this one because on exterior this one of the best looking 3 series.
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      09-13-2019, 04:48 PM   #31
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The wheel specs look insane!!! Very nice look 🤘🏼👌🏼
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      09-13-2019, 05:17 PM   #32
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Thanks for the positive feedback all.

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Nice photos and wheels. What is the weight per wheel? And are these wheels fully forged (some companies use clever naming to create the incorrectly convey that they're wheels are "forged")?
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Also, are those wheels truly forged?
These are great questions that more enthusiasts should be asking.

Our fully forged wheels are made from 6061-T6 aluminum using a 10,000 ton press. In short, our forged wheels are fully forged, and our flow formed wheels are just that - flow formed. As you described, some companies selling flow formed wheels use names that include the word “forged” to describe the manufacturing process, which can lead to confusion.

A similar issue we see is the common misconception that all forged wheels are strong, or that all forged wheels are stronger than cast or flow-formed wheels. Forging is simply a manufacturing process, not a measure of strength. Using forged material only gives a manufacturer the opportunity to create a stronger wheel, but it does not guarantee the final design will lead to an increase in effective strength vs a non-forged wheel. Consumers and the companies that sell forged wheels often focus on low wheel weights, but at what cost? Is that lighter wheel weaker, stronger, or equal to a cast alternative? Who knows? You’d need more info to make an educated decision, but that info is rarely presented. People’s assumption that forged is strong can lead to the purchase of wheels that are actually weaker than cast options. We made sure our forged wheels are stronger than our flow formed line by significantly increasing load ratings before trying to shave weight.

We wrote a more in-depth article about this topic in this blog article here: https://www.apexraceparts.com/blog/f...t-mean-strong/

At the end of the day, we could have released forged wheels years ago, but our main objective was to deliver product that went beyond fancy marketing. To deliver on our objective, it required meeting our internal increased strength and load rating benchmarks over our existing flow formed wheels, developing our own dies, designing our barrels to have industry-leading BBK clearance, ensuring our paintless knurled beading was functional, and more.

Edit: I forgot to supply you with a wheel weight. The EC-7R 18x10" ET25 pictured weighs approx. 20.6 lbs. You can find a list of wheel specifications and their respective weights and load ratings for both forged designs on our website. https://www.apexraceparts.com/wheels/forged-wheels.html


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Can you really say the wheels have a "aggressive & flush appearance" when you have to run spacers with them?
The 18x10" ET25 fitment shown on the car is a direct fit on the F80 chassis with stock suspension, lowering springs and most aftermarket coilovers, where no spacers are needed.

With that said, there are some aftermarket suspensions like KW (Variants, Clubsports and HAS) and Ohlins Road & Track that are known for eating up inner wheel and tire clearance. This can be due to a larger strut body, a taller spring stack height by incorporating tender/helper springs (which leads to a lower spring perch location next to the wheel & tire rather than above it), and/or other factors. When you install wider aftermarket wheels and tires with these particular suspensions, small spacers are necessary for the proper strut to tire clearance.

Please let us know if you have any further questions.

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      09-13-2019, 05:19 PM   #33
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Beautiful setup. 18's work great unless you're on stock suspension height... Love this!
Or have CCBs
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Beautiful setup. 18's work great unless you're on stock suspension height... Love this!
Or have CCBs
Oh yeah, I forgot about those
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Can you really say the wheels have a "aggressive & flush appearance" when you have to run spacers with them? Also, are those wheels truly forged?
These were run without spacers even with KW Clubsport suspension. They ran flush front/rear and rode amazing compared to my 19s.
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Appreciate all of the love on this post! Go check out the new Forged lineup that Apex is offering! They have great group buy rates going on and you wont be disappointed with their customer service!
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What’s the difference between brushed clear and race silver? Looks very similar.

Also what’s the most aggressive forged fitment for the f80 including tire sizes? I’m lowered on Bilstein b16 coilovers On stock power and standard brakes. I canyon 1 a month and track my car 5 times a year.

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I think it needs the MPerformance carbon splitter and MPE with carbon tips to really finish it off.
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After seeing the new 4 concept doesn’t it look super dated?
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After seeing the new 4 concept doesn't it look super dated?
Definitely looks dated but still looks better. Needs the icon LCI lights to fix that issue
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Will it fit E92 M3
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