Drag Race: M4 vs W205 C63 S, Lexus RC-F, E92 M3, W204 C63

Kraftwerk AG · 03-28-2020, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghosn

I have a sneaky suspicion the older C63 in this video has had some minor engine work, especially after it beating the M4 and then you see the air-ride suspension fitted, you know the other parts of the car are likely not stock either.

It may be tuned. But if you swapped in a Edition 507, you'll most likely get the same results.

GranitM5 · 03-28-2020, 06:07 PM

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E90 M3

Interesting... I've beaten a bone stock W204 C63 AMG P31 package off a roll in my bone stock M4 convertible that weighs 4200 lbs.. confused on how the M4 coupe lost that bad

That sounds about right. When I had just an OE tune, I was able to just beat stock M3/M4's. Tune vs tune, I'd lose.

Bahn360Photo · 03-28-2020, 06:34 PM

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E90 should have been replaced by e90 335

Why

? So it would lose by an even bigger margin ?

E90 335 is faster then m3 of that gen

Bahn360Photo · 03-28-2020, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by joshuastein55

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Surprised at new c63, that monster of an engine and such poor performance

I wonder if it was the driver? Hasn't the C63 beaten the M3/4 in most 1/4 mile races?

From what I thought too.

Software updates may have changed that

RPiM5 · 03-28-2020, 07:11 PM

E90 FTW! Def the best looking car of the lot.

Tpriest7893 · 03-28-2020, 07:18 PM

M4 did great! I always loved those older c63 models. Just sound so nice. I would still
Pick the m4 over them all lol

535i MSport · 03-28-2020, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joshuastein55

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Originally Posted by Bahn360Photo

Surprised at new c63, that monster of an engine and such poor performance

I wonder if it was the driver? Hasn't the C63 beaten the M3/4 in most 1/4 mile races?

In other Car Wow tests, the C63s was 12.1second

Kraftwerk AG · 03-28-2020, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Igor_M5

Funny thing is.... In about 2 years or less, the E90 will be the more expensive example in that line up.

Sex bomb color combo

How so? Are people now price gouging/hoarding parts because of Coronavirus?

TrentMeister · 03-28-2020, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghosn

I have a sneaky suspicion the older C63 in this video has had some minor engine work, especially after it beating the M4 and then you see the air-ride suspension fitted, you know the other parts of the car are likely not stock either.

I owned a modded w204 C63. Stock form would not pull on the M4 or C63s from a roll. That car deff had a tune!

Yeah my m2c makes them look bad on the highway. No way the m4 got spanked.

RedScytheM3 · 03-28-2020, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bahn360Photo

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

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E90 should have been replaced by e90 335

Why

? So it would lose by an even bigger margin ?

E90 335 is faster then m3 of that gen

What??

CanAutM3 · 03-28-2020, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bahn360Photo

E90 335 is faster then m3 of that gen

In your dreams.

Stock for stock, an E9X 335 couldn't touch an E9X M3.

GranitM5 · 03-28-2020, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghosn

I have a sneaky suspicion the older C63 in this video has had some minor engine work, especially after it beating the M4 and then you see the air-ride suspension fitted, you know the other parts of the car are likely not stock either.

I owned a modded w204 C63. Stock form would not pull on the M4 or C63s from a roll. That car deff had a tune!

Yeah my m2c makes them look bad in the highway. No way the m4 got spanked.

My car was FBO running E85 pushing close to 500whp. Not bad for N/A. Turbo is the way to go but man I miss the exhaust note since making the switch to the F90.

Luminor513 · 03-28-2020, 09:28 PM

Impressive performance from the M4. Surprised about the C63S coupe not doing better off the line. Agree w most that the W204 C63 probably was tuned. Much respect to the E90 regardless of the result here. Lexus needs to go back to the drawing board w pretty much the entire lineup.

jdgamble · 03-28-2020, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bahn360Photo

E90 335 is faster then m3 of that gen

Uhhhh... not even close. 4.7 vs 4.0 0-60. 1/4 mile even more of a delta.

If you would like to research.

https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicl...-60-mph-times/

The Automotive Enthusiast · 03-29-2020, 03:14 AM

I miss my e92 very, very much. That V8 was bliss.

The Automotive Enthusiast · 03-29-2020, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

In your dreams.

Stock for stock, an E9X 335 couldn't touch an E9X M3.

Especially after speeds started to increase. The e9x M3 pulled like a freight train after 4,000 RPM.

Vucko · 03-29-2020, 05:58 AM

a bit unfair comparison... its m4 and not m4c againt c63S... and second, old c63 sedan, must be tuned, its not possible to be that kind of difference between c63 and m3 and newer c63s in first race, simply not possible

psuibmw · 03-29-2020, 06:32 AM

And the best value winner goes to the M4

lixiang7349 · 03-29-2020, 07:48 AM

Lol AMG is good at making their products worse with each new generation 😂

10" · 03-29-2020, 07:55 AM

Older C63 AMG over any of those...

Bahn360Photo · 03-29-2020, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jdgamble

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Originally Posted by Bahn360Photo

E90 335 is faster then m3 of that gen

Uhhhh... not even close. 4.7 vs 4.0 0-60. 1/4 mile even more of a delta.

If you would like to research.

https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicl...-60-mph-times/

Those number are fine, I had e92 335 and had many runs with m3 and unfortunately they didn't support these numbers. I love that m3, sound looks, but speed it doesn't have

Bahn360Photo · 03-29-2020, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

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Originally Posted by Bahn360Photo

E90 335 is faster then m3 of that gen

In your dreams.

Stock for stock, an E9X 335 couldn't touch an E9X M3.

No need to get aggressive

I have personal experience, unfortunately e90/92 m3's are as fast compared to regular models are other generations. Having said that, it's one of my favorite M cars.

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