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We asked and were told by one of the engineers that there was absolutely no artificial sound feature, but others have written today that the M3/M4 will use the speakers to amplify the sound. A request for clarification is in at BMW and we should have an answer by tomorrow morning. Will update everyone.
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I am curious how well the resistance to heat soak will happen. The N54 and N55 were air/air like any track worthy turbo vehicle I am familiar with. But the new engine takes a seemingly step back with regards to track duty with a liquid/air system. But I can be hopeful though. |
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From the Car & Driver preview:
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Unrelated, they also claim the displacement to be 3.0L.
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Then you'll get threads on here about whether to go for the Bang and Olufsen and having someone say, "Get it. It's the only way to appreciate the lower end sound of the engine." |
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09-24-2013, 08:44 PM | #273 |
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Awesome!!! Thanks for the report
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If it is confirmed, it's not so easy to disable. If it operates the same way as on the M5, disabling it will require a fuse pull, which disables the entire audio system. One of our M5 members has done it: http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=680384
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Srsly.
Can I trade in my F30 for one????
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Interesting info here. Also the weight of ~3300 lbs seems like is in the lightest configuration (will be interesting to see what that includes vs the 176 lbs of 'comparably equipped' car). Seems like the M3 and M4 may have different weights. Also talks about CSL possibility ("if approved") with further weight reduction.
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The rev-match thing isn't a new feature, even for BMW. The new M5 and M6 with 6MT already have this feature.
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Our first ride write-up is up!
BIMMERPOST M3/M4 First Ride Notes, Impressions and More Tech Details http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=893216
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Thank you for that precision. The mention of about only 80lbs reduction compared to the E9X has me unimpressed though, not enough to make a huge difference. My E92 M3 with DCT, premium sound, EDC, nav, adjustable bolster seats weighed in at 3688lbs with almost full fuel and no driver. 3300lbs seems like a substatial weight reduction. Now we need to figure how much the options will weigh on the F8X... It seems there is a lot of pumped marketing hype about the weight of this new F8X series. If it only boils down to 80kg, it is welcome, but not that significant. 12kg reduction is quoted from the 6MT. Are those 12kg included in the 80kg? If so, it means that a DCT F8X is now only 68kg lighter than an E9X. I guess I will have to wait and see. I bought my E46 and E92 without even test driving them. Not so sure about the F82... Last edited by CanAutM3; 09-24-2013 at 09:43 PM.. |
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I am praying they leave it out. Thanks Jason.
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Well, I haven't been wowed by the size increase and exterior design of the newest 3 and 4 series, but on paper this is a hell of a car. A race car for the street. I was really hoping I wouldn't like the new ///M4, and could avoid the large price tag this will likely carry, but this looks awfully tempting...
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Personally, I feel they should leave all the automatic mumbo-jumbo to the DCT. Kinda defeats the purpose of driving a manual. Rev-matching is a skill that most manual drivers acquire with practice. It's rewarding and fun, I don't want a computer doing it for me...
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The new M4 looks like it will be an absolutely amazing car no doubt.
However, I'm a bit confused by the hysteria and excitement on the forum for stats that we've known for a long time. Dr. Nitschke's interview a couple months ago already confirmed the new M4 would be much lighter than the 435i. Estimates on this board were from 3300 - 3550. Power estimates were 420 hp - 460 hp. Torque was predicted to be 390 - 420. The actual numbers came in at weight about 3500lbs. HP 430, Tq 370. So the very top end of the weight range, nearly the bottom end of the hp range and below the bottom range of the tq. Again, I am not disparaging the new car, in fact I think it will be the greatest M yet and the reviews will all praise it. I'm just confused at the emotional reaction to the release of stats that all ended up right at the most conservative estimates on the board. |
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