Official BMW M3 and M4 Competition Package Details, Pricing and Photos

[al3xander]

Not a bad value At all, I actually like the rims but them being 20" is a deal breaker. That's just too big and ride comfort will be much worse.

Black kidneys are 450 from Bmw so if you factor in that as well.
450
1200 on wheels
1000 for suspension that's 2650 in upgrades. So another 2850 for the seats , wheels and power upgrade is a great deal.

[TheIceStormOf06]

I've said so many times that I knew that the ZCP would bump the power to 444. I've posted that so many times here on Bimmerpost. Folks called me crazy. BMW has turned into Baravian Marketing works. Come on...444HP. REALLY??? How ironic is that??? Clearly, this is to make the M4 acceptable.

That being said, I hope they offer the original wheels for $3500. Not a fan of these.
I've been waiting for the comp package and this is going to Rock AMGs world!!! Let the games begin!!!

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Can I change the wheels? I think I'd buy a ZCP. Changes are comprehensive. Did they lower the car 10mm like they did with the e92?

The F80 already has a hard time putting power down. Does it come with wider rubber at the rear?

[Ggeezer]

Originally Posted by al3xander

Not a bad value At all, I actually like the rims but them being 20" is a deal breaker. That's just too big and ride comfort will be much worse.

Black kidneys are 450 from Bmw so if you factor in that as well.
450
1200 on wheels
1000 for suspension that's 2650 in upgrades. So another 2850 for the seats , wheels and power upgrade is a great deal.

To be fair, the $450 is overstated. You aren't getting the black kidneys, side gills and badge IN ADDITION to the chrome ones. So you'd have to look at the marginal cost of the black cosmetic bits over and above the chrome ones to make the comparison more accurate.

Same with the seats. BMW is not giving you 2 sets of seats so since you're only getting 1 set of seats, they're charging you the marginal cost of the "ZCP" seats over the normal seats. This marginal cost is embedded within the $5k.

Likewise, the car already comes with a base set of 18s and since they're not giving you 2 sets of wheels, the marginal cost of the 20" wheels over the 18s is what you're paying for in the cost of the CP package.

Same idea for the new suspension components.

This is why it's more cost effective (less expensive) to simply purchase the package up front rather than retrofitting down the line.

If you order the package with the car, you're only paying the incremental cost of all the upgrades. On the flip side, if you choose to upgrade further down the line, you'll have to pay for the full value of the seats+wheels+black cosmetic items+suspension which will definitely cost more than $5k, understandably, and you'll have 2 sets of items: the standard components that originally came with the car and the "new" items. In the latter case, you'll have to sell some of the original components to offset the cost of the new ones.

Long story short, if you're gonna do it anyway, might as well order it directly from the factory!

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by damnitBobby

hmm the whole design just doesn't flow with those wheels.. looks odd.

Alfa Romeo's Giulia may very well put the smack down on this car.

It is likely the next generation M3 would be just around the corner by the time it comes.

[Jadar]

Originally Posted by Mantii

To be honest, not worth it. I'm sure a lot of people will still get it, but doesn't do enough for me, for the price. You can get much better power output while at the same time customize the looks of the car with various mods already available.
When I looked at the seats in the first picture, I was like "I'm digging these", then looking at the second pic below, I'm like "hell no". And don't get me started on those wheels.

Downpipe, tune, new m performance wheel, new m performance Coilovers, and you got yourself a better looking and more potent competition package for less money, most likely.

Just my 2 cents

Those seats do look strange. Someone educate me as to why the cutouts are there and so low? No seatbelt harness I've ever seen fits this type of seat.

The wheels I said it before, I'll say it again, they look ghetto.

[KevinM]

Originally Posted by jphughan

Not sure what the "and bother is a harsh value judgment" phrase means, but I personally have never said that people who don't track shouldn't own M cars. People can spend their money however they choose, so if someone wants to buy an M car and never go near a track or someone else wants to buy a Ferrari to use only for picking up supermodels for dates and guaranteeing the valet spot right in front of the expensive restaurant they visit, then who am I to judge how "worthy" an expenditure that is? What I HAVE said is that M cars are vastly more capable than can be fully exploited on public roads and that therefore people who own M cars and don't track them are closing themselves off from experiencing a significant chunk of their car's potential and fun value and fully appreciating just how remarkable these cars are. That should all be obvious. I just consider it unfortunate (maybe tragic was too harsh) because these cars truly are incredible on track and so many owners don't even know what they're missing -- and they could easily get a taste by simply attending as a spectator and catching rides.

I've also said to people asking for advice deciding between an M car vs a series car (possibly with mods to the latter) that if all that person will be doing is driving on city streets and freeways, with no track time and not even any meaningful amount of time on fun back roads, then while an M car is still more fun than the series car even in that mundane commuting type of driving, in my opinion it isn't more fun by an amount that justifies its much higher total cost of ownership if that's the only way the car will be experienced. Of course the value of a given amount of money will vary from person to person, but generally people asking whether to spring for an M car or stick to a base series car aren't the ones for whom cost is no object.

I respect your opinion. Having owned several non-M BMWs and for the past 11 years only BMW Ms, I have a slightly different one. While I have been to several BMW driving schools, I don't track my cars regularly, mostly due to time. When I first drove the E39 M5 at my first BMW driving school 12 years ago, I knew I had to have one vs. my otherwise wonderful manual E39 530. For me it is not about the speed, it is about how it feels driving the car. This feeling is difficult to put into words, but for me is present in traffic or on nice back road (which I do take advantage of!). These days, standard BMWs surpass what you can do on a public road anyway (hell, a 335i can probably take my M5 and Z4M coupe 0-60 without a sweat). Full disclosure - my experience is with older M cars. I plan to add a manual M2 or F80 M3 in the next year, so I will have to recalibrate my opinion after that (I have driven the F30 3 series and F22 so I have some reference, but admittedly not a lot).

I see you have a GT4 - that is a car I think I would love.

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMW

Can I change the wheels? I think I'd buy a ZCP. Changes are comprehensive. Did they lower the car 10mm like they did with the e92?

The F80 already has a hard time putting power down. Does it come with wider rubber at the rear?

It says "front: 265/30 R20, rear: 285/30 R20". That is slightly wider in the rear.

[damnitBobby]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

It is likely the next generation M3 would be just around the corner by the time it comes.

your statement just made me realize that i'm getting old

[STooK]

Although it costs more, I like the fact that it has more distinguishable features than the e92 zcp did. One can easily replicate the look of a zcp e92 by getting lci tails, eibachs, and 359 rims. It will be harder/costly to convert a non zcp f82 to zcp. Also my guess on why BMW went with those controversial wheels is that it looks like it'll be harder for third party wheel companies to replicate. You get more "exclusivity" with the f8x zcp on top of the added performance, which would be a selling point in my eyes.

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

It says "front: 265/30 R20, rear: 285/30 R20". That is slightly wider in the rear.

Isn't it slightly wider in front too? I thought OEM sizes were 255 front and 275 rear, up from 245/265 on the E9x, and now the M2.

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by jphughan

Isn't it slightly wider in front too? I thought OEM sizes were 255 front and 275 rear, up from 245/265 on the E9x, and now the M2.

His question was about it being wider in the rear

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by KevinM

I respect your opinion. Having owned several non-M BMWs and for the past 11 years only BMW Ms, I have a slightly different one. While I have been to several BMW driving schools, I don't track my cars regularly, mostly due to time. When I first drove the E39 M5 at my first BMW driving school 12 years ago, I knew I had to have one vs. my otherwise wonderful manual E39 530. For me it is not about the speed, it is about how it feels driving the car. This feeling is difficult to put into words, but for me is present in traffic or on nice back road (which I do take advantage of!). These days, standard BMWs surpass what you can do on a public road anyway (hell, a 335i can probably take my M5 and Z4M coupe 0-60 without a sweat). Full disclosure - my experience is with older M cars. I plan to add a manual M2 or F80 M3 in the next year, so I will have to recalibrate my opinion after that (I have driven the F30 3 series and F22 so I have some reference, but admittedly not a lot).

I see you have a GT4 - that is a car I think I would love.

I completely agree. Whenever I got a 335i loaner, it immediately felt more boring even on the casual drive back home and I was always eager to get back into my car. I just don't think I could have let myself spend ~$15K over the cost of that 335i plus all other increased running costs solely for that improvement. Instead, I had to make it worth the money by spending a bunch MORE money on a track addiction.

It's still early and the weather still isn't as great as it could be, but the GT4 is a load of fun. I had just resolved to keep my E92 long-term when it was announced, and I wouldn't have gotten rid of it for anything else. The GT4 just seemed too perfect to pass up. I'm still getting a feel for it having only recently finished the break-in and getting warmer weather around here, but it's already abundantly clear that I'll never get a clear feel for this car until I get to a track where I can experiment more safely. If the weather cooperates, I'll be able to run it around CotA on Feb 7, and if so I should be able to give you a ride if you want to come out!

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

It is likely the next generation M3 would be just around the corner by the time it comes.

2017?

[aajami]

Originally Posted by Tisaksen

Any word as to whether or not the car will be lower compared to the standard F8x?

No lowering according to the previous thread.

[4PIPE]

i wonder if we could get the power increase through a software upgrade at the dealer

[shawshank772]

Do we know if the seats will be leather or cloth? If leather is also included in the package that's another 1k to subtract from the overall price.

[Stevens21234]

they did get one thing right:

"The starting rumble and the distinctive burble on over run never fail to get under the skin of dedicated drivers time and again."

lol..the crappy sound definitely gets underneath my skin

[tonymac1]

so the competition package released before the M4 LCI,when will the LCI for 4 series happen?

[GP0256]

I like the package options but I wish the wheels looked like the E92 ZCP wheels...... Not digging them at all!

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by MThree_driver

The release statement from BMW (above) says dct w/comp. f8x is 0-60 in 3.8...the gts release statement says 3.8 0-60.

The release brochure and press release says 500hp. 500-444=56

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I'm just using the release statements and brochures provided by BMW. Some sites say the gts is 493hp..but some articles say the f80 has 430hp. All underrated numbers anyway. Just curious that's all. Gts is still superior in almost every way, just happy to see the comp pkg come out and actually improve several parts of the car

That's what I said, you are confusing metric with imperial numbers. You have to check which literature you are reading.

100km/h = 62mph, so 0-100km/h takes a few more tenth than 0-60mph. Check what release you are quoting, because the 3.8 number is for the 0-100km/h (0-62mph), not 0-60mph.

You are also mixing up European power (hp DIN or PS) with US power (hp SAE):
Base M4 = 431ps = 425hp
M4 CP = 450ps = 444hp
M4 GTS = 500ps = 493hp

[E90M3JETS]

Ok let me summarize: you pay 5,000 more and get:
1) 0.1 seconds faster in 0-60
2) horrendously looking wheels
3) M badge in black

What a value!!!