F8x long term owners -- issues so far?

[hellokitty]

Originally Posted by kss

For those who have high mileage or are planning to keep the car longer, are you just doing the scheduled service (ie oil change, brake fluids) and than do the usual wear and tear service (ie brakes) when needed? Anybody doing any other preventative maintenance?

Oil change every 3-4k.

Clean BMC air filters every 20k, remove and tap out big debris every 10k.

Change cabin filters every year.

I’d probably do a full coolant flush next summer (3 years).

Brake fluid service was just done at year 2.

Spark plugs every 30k but I’m going to shorten that to 15-20k when I’m out of warranty.

Coil packs probably won’t be an issue until 50k miles but likely longer if not tuned.

DCT fluid and filter service at 40-50k (this is coming from my N54 DCT). It’s cheap preventative maintenance considering the cost of a DCT.

Long term issues common on BMW: valve cover gasket, oil filter housing gasket, oil pan gasket.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by hellokitty

Oil change every 3-4k.

Clean BMC air filters every 20k, remove and tap out big debris every 10k.

Change cabin filters every year.

I’d probably do a full coolant flush next summer (3 years).

Brake fluid service was just done at year 2.

Spark plugs every 30k but I’m going to shorten that to 15-20k when I’m out of warranty.

Coil packs probably won’t be an issue until 50k miles but likely longer if not tuned.

DCT fluid and filter service at 40-50k (this is coming from my N54 DCT). It’s cheap preventative maintenance considering the cost of a DCT.

Long term issues common on BMW: valve cover gasket, oil filter housing gasket, oil pan gasket.

Very comprehensive list!

[Red335i]

Originally Posted by kss

For those who have high mileage or are planning to keep the car longer, are you just doing the scheduled service (ie oil change, brake fluids) and than do the usual wear and tear service (ie brakes) when needed? Anybody doing any other preventative maintenance?

I’ve only changed engine oil, brake & rear diff fluid, air & cabin filters, windshield wipers and spark plugs.
My brakes are still showing 90k left for rears & 120k on the fronts. Nothing preventative.

[kss]

Thanks everybody - that’s very helpful!

[itsTwigs]

Originally Posted by hellokitty

You’ll need to buy a new intercooler since your core is leaking. I’d probably go with Wagner.

Do it ASAP before you contaminate your oil with coolant. Also do an oil change ASAP.

Thanks for the advice. Going VRSF

[hellokitty]

Originally Posted by Red335i

I've only changed engine oil, brake & rear diff fluid, air & cabin filters, windshield wipers and spark plugs.
My brakes are still showing 90k left for rears & 120k on the fronts. Nothing preventative.

Ahh I forgot about the diff. I'd probably do that at the same time as the DCT service too.

[TheDailyDriven]

Originally Posted by krotondo

41k Miles on my 2017 ZCP. BMC Filters & AA Mid-pipe done @ 4k Miles. Everything else stock. Ordered new, took delivery with 3 miles.

- Active Sound Module replaced @ 1,200 Miles
- H/K AMP replaced @ 1,200 Miles
- Break in Service @ 1,200 Miles
- 2nd Service done @ 9,683 Miles
- Replaced both rear brakes shields replaced with updated parts @ 9,683 Miles
- Felt tape applied to center console for rattle @ 9,683 Miles
- Replaced all door seals with updated part @ 9,683 Miles due to squeaking
- (1) Rear tire replaced due to nail, covered under W/T Warranty @ 17,093 Miles
- 3rd Service done @ 19,205 Miles
- (1) Rear tire replaced due to nail, covered under W/T Warranty @ 25,017 Miles
- 4th Service done @ 28,717 Miles + Spark Plugs
- Applied teflon tape to all 4 door seals @ 28,717 Miles
- Wastegate adjustment due to rattle, found to be out of spec @ 28,717 Miles
- Excessive play found in front left suspension causing a clunk, replaced left thrust arm and left tension strut @ 28,717 Miles
- Steering wheel replaced due to leather cracking @ 28,717
- 5th service done @ 38,792 Miles
- Replaced entire leather seat cover, driver side due to cracking @ 38,792 Miles
- Replaced Driver and Passenger seat "M" Logo due to cracking @ 38,792
Miles
- Replaced both front wheel bearing due to noise @ 38,792 Miles
- Replaced entire front left suspension, strut & spring etc due to clunking coming back @ 38,792 Miles
- Performed wheel alignment @ 38,792 Miles

All is well now @ 41k Miles.

Out of pocket cost to date is $290. (Service #5)

I have Geico MBI that will kick in @ 50k - will update at a later date

Geico MBI coverage is underrated. It has to be one of best after market warranties. I had it on my F30 and saved me about 10K in repairs. Good thing I added to my F80 when I purchased the vehicle.

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by turbodreamer

Red335i, I'm at 118K on my 15' M4. Commute 45 miles each way; live in downtown Chicago work in northwest indiana suburbs. Love every minute of driving it. Drive it rain, snow, or shine. No major issues except a pcv leak at around 95k and alternator at 60k. I am lowered on swifts and am thinking about changing out the shocks at some point. I drive through some crazy bumps/pot holes in the city. I am stage 2 tune/full bolt ons and plan to go pure stage 2 this upcoming summer.

I can't tell you how many times people think my car is new and i'm like yeah it has over 100k! Everything is about how you take care of a car. It helps that i'm OCD af lol. The motor and build quality on the F8x is superb. Ive had both low and high mile e46 and e92 m3s. The f8x is by far the most reliable and impressive machine. This platform is going down in the history books. I remember as a kid being in awe seeing high mile modded supras be bulletproof when ever other car would fall apart.

Glad to see you're enjoying the car!!! That's what it's there for!!

Some people live scared their cars are going to fall apart any second. On the other hand you've put 118k on yours, it's hard to imagine how many smiles you've gotten out of the experience

Few things are as wonderful as daily driving M cars

[MrSmartyPants]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

Glad to see you're enjoying the car!!! That's what it's there for!!

Some people live scared their cars are going to fall apart any second. On the other hand you've put 118k on yours, it's hard to imagine how many smiles you've gotten out of the experience

Few things are as wonderful as daily driving M cars

Truth!

Sometimes I feel bad putting so much mileage on mine, but not really.

[MrSmartyPants]

Originally Posted by Railgun

Little over 4 years and not even 33k and right side half shaft is starting to leak.

Else, pretty solid apart from the usual interior rattles.

Check the top of the diff housing. I get some leakage/seepage from the breather on mine even when filled properly. Thought it was a right side seal, but its not.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by kss

For those who have high mileage or are planning to keep the car longer, are you just doing the scheduled service (ie oil change, brake fluids) and than do the usual wear and tear service (ie brakes) when needed? Anybody doing any other preventative maintenance?

I have been following the Mike Miller Old School Maintenance Program since I got the car seen here:

https://www.dslreports.com/r0/downlo...e%20v03.13.pdf

In addition to that, I change my oil every 5k miles and use the CRC GDI Intake Valve cleaning treatment with every oil change. I am at 43k miles with the car still running strong. 6MT....

[hellokitty]

Originally Posted by jmciver

I have been following the Mike Miller Old School Maintenance Program since I got the car seen here:

https://www.dslreports.com/r0/downlo...e%20v03.13.pdf

In addition to that, I change my oil every 5k miles and use the CRC GDI Intake Valve cleaning treatment with every oil change. I am at 43k miles with the car still running strong. 6MT....

Wowers I just realized I have an old dslreports account that is 20 years old... back when 1.5mbps was lightning fast.

[JoeFromPA]

Originally Posted by jmciver

I have been following the Mike Miller Old School Maintenance Program since I got the car seen here:

https://www.dslreports.com/r0/downlo...e%20v03.13.pdf

In addition to that, I change my oil every 5k miles and use the CRC GDI Intake Valve cleaning treatment with every oil change. I am at 43k miles with the car still running strong. 6MT....

For what it's worth....

I'm a big fan of MM old school maintenance on older vehicles. When you look at our S55's + M-Diff + DCT or 6mt....

There's no evidence of longevity issues on stock cars in the S55, Diff, or Trans using the factory recommended intervals. There's kinda evidence to the contrary quite frankly.

And you could say "Well it doesn't hurt and could help to follow the MM old school maintenance" which is true. But by 100k miles the old school maintenance will give you a very significant amount of investment for....and unsure gain. There's 5-10 more oil changes in there and 1-3 more trans fluid changes, for example.....you choose whether that's DIY rates or shop rates.

[hellokitty]

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

For what it's worth....

I'm a big fan of MM old school maintenance on older vehicles. When you look at our S55's + M-Diff + DCT or 6mt....

There's no evidence of longevity issues on stock cars in the S55, Diff, or Trans using the factory recommended intervals. There's kinda evidence to the contrary quite frankly.

And you could say "Well it doesn't hurt and could help to follow the MM old school maintenance" which is true. But by 100k miles the old school maintenance will give you a very significant amount of investment for....and unsure gain. There's 5-10 more oil changes in there and 1-3 more trans fluid changes, for example.....you choose whether that's DIY rates or shop rates.

Idk but here is my diff fluid (see the lines) after just 40k miles on my 335is. I think replacing fluids is cheap insurance.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

For what it's worth....

I'm a big fan of MM old school maintenance on older vehicles. When you look at our S55's + M-Diff + DCT or 6mt....

There's no evidence of longevity issues on stock cars in the S55, Diff, or Trans using the factory recommended intervals. There's kinda evidence to the contrary quite frankly.

And you could say "Well it doesn't hurt and could help to follow the MM old school maintenance" which is true. But by 100k miles the old school maintenance will give you a very significant amount of investment for....and unsure gain. There's 5-10 more oil changes in there and 1-3 more trans fluid changes, for example.....you choose whether that's DIY rates or shop rates.

Sure, it depends on how much effort you want to put into maintenance like this. But I would argue that any car, new or old, would benefit from this type of maintenance plan. Especially if it is done from new AND you plan to keep the car for the long haul without car payments. When you take into account having a car with that is paid for, and runs well due to being well maintained, the extra cost of doing this maintenance, both time & $$, does not seem like a bad deal to me - even if you have an indy shop do the work (and you save more if you DIY, like I do). My almost 15 yr old E46 M3 seems to have benefitted from this methodology (it has been paid off for 11+ of those years). My wife's previous 2005 E83 X3 went 130k+ miles and 10 years before we sold it (it was paid off for 6 of those 10 years as well).

Besides, the S55 is still relatively "new". It will be a matter of time to see how they really hold up over the long haul with different types of maintenance practices. A good litmus test would be to look at some of the "older modern" BMWs like the E90's to see how they are doing. I actually have one of those cars that falls into that category now, I recently purchased for my teenaged son a 2009 E82 128i 6MT w/N51 with 150k on the clock, doing all of the MM maintenance stuff on it too (even though I obviously don't know what the previous owners did other than from the PPI I conducted...). But the car is running like a champ....

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by turbodreamer

Red335i, I'm at 118K on my 15' M4. Commute 45 miles each way; live in downtown Chicago work in northwest indiana suburbs. Love every minute of driving it. Drive it rain, snow, or shine. No major issues except a pcv leak at around 95k and alternator at 60k. I am lowered on swifts and am thinking about changing out the shocks at some point. I drive through some crazy bumps/pot holes in the city. I am stage 2 tune/full bolt ons and plan to go pure stage 2 this upcoming summer.

I can't tell you how many times people think my car is new and i'm like yeah it has over 100k! Everything is about how you take care of a car. It helps that i'm OCD af lol. The motor and build quality on the F8x is superb. Ive had both low and high mile e46 and e92 m3s. The f8x is by far the most reliable and impressive machine. This platform is going down in the history books. I remember as a kid being in awe seeing high mile modded supras be bulletproof when ever other car would fall apart.

Dang your car looks mean!

[MrSmartyPants]

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

For what it's worth....

I'm a big fan of MM old school maintenance on older vehicles. When you look at our S55's + M-Diff + DCT or 6mt....

There's no evidence of longevity issues on stock cars in the S55, Diff, or Trans using the factory recommended intervals. There's kinda evidence to the contrary quite frankly.

And you could say "Well it doesn't hurt and could help to follow the MM old school maintenance" which is true. But by 100k miles the old school maintenance will give you a very significant amount of investment for....and unsure gain. There's 5-10 more oil changes in there and 1-3 more trans fluid changes, for example.....you choose whether that's DIY rates or shop rates.

If you DIY and purchase the parts and fluids from FCP Euro you only pay once.

Extremely affordable.

FWIW, my 6MT trans is shifting much better hot and cold after a change at 40k. I've also been advised by a friend who owns his own indy to do 5k tweener oil changes. He relayed that the cars with shorter intervals do better long term.

[krotondo]

Originally Posted by f80_austiny3llow

Geico MBI coverage is underrated. It has to be one of best after market warranties. I had it on my F30 and saved me about 10K in repairs. Good thing I added to my F80 when I purchased the vehicle.

I'm about to go in for my 50k service - have some stuff to add to my list... lol

[theweebabySeamus]

Originally Posted by MrSmartyPants

If you DIY and purchase the parts and fluids from FCP Euro you only pay once.

Extremely affordable.

FWIW, my 6MT trans is shifting much better hot and cold after a change at 40k. I've also been advised by a friend who owns his own indy to do 5k tweener oil changes. He relayed that the cars with shorter intervals do better long term.

Ive wondered what the costs on shipping the oil back area. Ive never used FCP and I'm sure its cheaper than buying new oil, but if its $40 to ship oil back and the oil only costs $65 on Prime then its not nearly as good a deal and, being lazy, doubt Id end up following through.

[Spritztour]

Oil Pan leak fixed and creaking noise (Door) fixed with Teflon and Roof Rail Double Sided Tape (Gorilla) Fixed. That's it.

[MrSmartyPants]

Originally Posted by theweebabySeamus

Ive wondered what the costs on shipping the oil back area. Ive never used FCP and I'm sure its cheaper than buying new oil, but if its $40 to ship oil back and the oil only costs $65 on Prime then its not nearly as good a deal and, being lazy, doubt Id end up following through.

I'm not sure. Haven't used the lifetime guarantee yet. Also I live 20 minutes from their warehouse. Absolutely great group of people though, some fun events there.

[TheDailyDriven]

Originally Posted by krotondo

I'm about to go in for my 50k service - have some stuff to add to my list... lol

Gotta make sure you "utilize" the coverage Its really one of the best coverages I've dealt with.