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      11-25-2020, 08:48 AM   #1035
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If you want to add insult to injury, look at where the streak ends for the 10 best.
I still remember when the 3 series kept winning and readers started accusing Car and Driver of being biased towards BMWs.
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And now to add further insult, you can now order a G8X grill for your F8X from KITT Tuning in Romania. Act now so you can be the first to be ///KITH with your F8X!



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When the new BMW 3 and 4 Series came out, we knew we could count on the aftermarket to make a replacement front bumper that didn't make the car look like a Rodent of Unusual Size. What if you crave the exact opposite? What if you have one of the last reasonable-looking BMWs, but want it to look more like the new one?

Say no more, thanks to the Romanian customizers at KITT Tuning. These fellows from the country known for things that go bump in the night are really, really doubling down on the scary big teeth thing, as KITT created a bumper for the 2012-2019 F30-generation BMW 3 and 4 series that looks like the brand new version's front end.
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      11-25-2020, 09:13 AM   #1037
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And now to add further insult, you can now order a G8X grill for your F8X from KITT Tuning in Romania. Act now so you can be the first to be ///KITH with your F8X!



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When the new BMW 3 and 4 Series came out, we knew we could count on the aftermarket to make a replacement front bumper that didn't make the car look like a Rodent of Unusual Size. What if you crave the exact opposite? What if you have one of the last reasonable-looking BMWs, but want it to look more like the new one?

Say no more, thanks to the Romanian customizers at KITT Tuning. These fellows from the country known for things that go bump in the night are really, really doubling down on the scary big teeth thing, as KITT created a bumper for the 2012-2019 F30-generation BMW 3 and 4 series that looks like the brand new version's front end.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/37829/...as-the-new-one
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      11-25-2020, 10:08 AM   #1038
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And now to add further insult, you can now order a G8X grill for your F8X from KITT Tuning in Romania. Act now so you can be the first to be ///KITH with your F8X!





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      11-25-2020, 03:05 PM   #1039
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It's still FUGLY but for some reason looks a tad better than on the G8X. I think the lack of those Charger hood lines helps it a bit lol. F series headlights in half circle or Icon style is peak BMW headlight styling IMO and looks better here despite the buck teeth grille.

Overall still atrocious...
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It's still FUGLY but for some reason looks a tad better than on the G8X. I think the lack of those Charger hood lines helps it a bit lol. F series headlights in half circle or Icon style is peak BMW headlight styling IMO and looks better here despite the buck teeth grille.

Overall still atrocious...
I said the same thing in the general section thread. I think it actually looks significantly better on current gen, the headlights are more in line with the angular shapes of the bumper and maybe the proportions are tweaked just the right way to make it look better, but it definitely does. I don't hate it nearly as much as the new car. But I also hate the new headlights as well, they just look weird and huge in my opinion
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I still remember when the 3 series kept winning and readers started accusing Car and Driver of being biased towards BMWs.
Exactly! Remember "BMW could release a piece of shit with a kidney grille and C&D would give it 9/10, deducting 1 point for the back-end sliding too much"

Welp, BMW has finally accepted the challenge.
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I still remember when the 3 series kept winning and readers started accusing Car and Driver of being biased towards BMWs.
Exactly! Remember "BMW could release a piece of shit with a kidney grille and C&D would give it 9/10, deducting 1 point for the back-end sliding too much"

Welp, BMW has finally accepted the challenge.
Well, depends on what you call whatever BMW is doing currently.

A smiling bunny teeth or a beaver.
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      11-26-2020, 01:25 PM   #1043
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When the F8x first came out, I thought BMW did a fantastic job on the design. Bigger car, but every generation gets bigger. But to me, F8x was/is a home run.

Now this new gen. I think they went a step backwards on the sedan version. The coupe looks better, I think they look good, the lines look good. But I can not for the life of me get over that obnoxious grill. Every time I see a new Lexus on the road, I cringe.
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      11-27-2020, 03:18 AM   #1044
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So I built one just for kicks.
  • M4 base
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$84,050 (...before any hook-ups/price reduction).

Considering my current Nardo Gray Individual M4 had an $80k MSRP without cool options like carbon buckets, I don't think the pricing is bad at all. If I were to subtract that option, the new car would be right in line with the old one as far as MSRP is concerned.
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In that thread about the"driving review" video by supercar blondie, she talks about them hitting 140K! She was wrong on a lot of other things so I'm guessing she is on that one as well. But, a poster said it would me more like 120k, which they said was reasonable to them. That blows my mind that people think that. Think of all the different/better cars IMO for 120-140k than a M4 comp. I thought the same thing as one of the above poster, maybe there will be crazy discounts like teh CS ones to make people think they got a great deal. I don't know what currency she was talking about, but my guess was US$ since I think she lives in the US.

Edit: Built my M3 comp with full leather, frozen Portimao and mostly loaded for 84k. Actually not that bad. The two base interior trims suck IMO. The pricey upgrades aren't much better either. So you can't get a comp pack with a manual?
From what I gather, she’s an Australian living in Dubai. Price could be AUS$
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So I built one just for kicks.
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$84,050 (...before any hook-ups/price reduction).

Considering my current Nardo Gray Individual M4 had an $80k MSRP without cool options like carbon buckets, I don't think the pricing is bad at all. If I were to subtract that option, the new car would be right in line with the old one as far as MSRP is concerned.
In Canada, the price went up significantly. I built one as I would spec it, not even fully loaded, and it came just shy of the MSRP of my current M4cs. And to think people thought the the CS was overpriced
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And now to add further insult, you can now order a G8X grill for your F8X from KITT Tuning in Romania. Act now so you can be the first to be ///KITH with your F8X!





https://www.thedrive.com/news/37829/...as-the-new-one

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I'm sure the peeps over at BMW are thinking
"We aren't winning the 10 best anymore, but our sales are way up - why were we even giving a crap about driving dynamics?"

seriously.

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In Canada, the price went up significantly. I built one as I would spec it, not even fully loaded, and it came just shy of the MSRP of my current M4cs. And to think people thought the the CS was overpriced
But it has comfort access right?
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I'm sure the peeps over at BMW are thinking
"We aren't winning the 10 best anymore, but our sales are way up - why were we even giving a crap about driving dynamics?"

seriously.



But it has comfort access right?
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From what I gather, she’s as Australian living in Dubai. Price could be AUS$
Thanks, that definitely makes sense then in $Aus currency.

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In Canada, the price went up significantly. I built one as I would spec it, not even fully loaded, and it came just shy of the MSRP of my current M4cs. And to think people thought the the CS was overpriced
It was in the US anyway, until the 20-30% discounts hit rather quickly here.
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From what I gather, she's as Australian living in Dubai. Price could be AUS$
Thanks, that definitely makes sense then in $Aus currency.

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In Canada, the price went up significantly. I built one as I would spec it, not even fully loaded, and it came just shy of the MSRP of my current M4cs. And to think people thought the the CS was overpriced
It was in the US anyway, until the 20-30% discounts hit rather quickly here.
I did annoyingly spec one myself to see price.

While the base car did increase in price the options and stuff are still very spartan for the most part. With CCB and Executive plus some other stuff it was about 91k ish for the one I slapped together with Dravite Grey.

So yeah, think the $ isn't US price otherwise BMW lost their mind.
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Went to the dealership and saw the new 4 series, I couldn't help but vomit in front of SA. Other customers seemed to be entertained by the sight.

There is nothing BMW about the new 4 series, side profile is awkward and grille is just terrible.
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There is nothing BMW about the new 4 series, side profile is awkward and grille is just terrible.

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Went to the dealership and saw the new 4 series, I couldn't help but vomit in front of SA. Other customers seemed to be entertained by the sight.

There is nothing BMW about the new 4 series, side profile is awkward and grille is just terrible.
I will probably do the same thing during my maintenance appointment on Monday at the dealer. I can't wait to either throw up or laugh my ass off!
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Went to the dealership and saw the new 4 series, I couldn't help but vomit in front of SA. Other customers seemed to be entertained by the sight.

There is nothing BMW about the new 4 series, side profile is awkward and grille is just terrible.
I will probably do the same thing during my maintenance appointment on Monday at the dealer. I can't wait to either throw up or laugh my ass off!
Yeah, recently went to my local dealer to get a glimpse of the new 4 series.....aesthetically, their is nothing about the car that is appealing. That's just my opinion though. :
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