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      09-10-2019, 06:25 PM   #23
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Doesn't take much:

- BM3 Flash tune
- CaryTheLabelGuy E85 Flash tuning on dyno
- Catless Downpipes
- BMC Filters
- Spark Plugs (1-step colder, regapped)

Optional (but highly recommended)
- Charge Pipes

You'll have both 91/93 octane (depending on region) and E85 files to switch back and forth as needed, you also get the GTS DCT flash as part of the BM3 package. On our end, everything can be done in same day, including dyno tuning.
if this gets you to 600whp, does just upgrading turbos on top of this get you to 700whp? if not, what is needed for 700whp?
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Doesn't take much:

- BM3 Flash tune
- CaryTheLabelGuy E85 Flash tuning on dyno
- Catless Downpipes
- BMC Filters
- Spark Plugs (1-step colder, regapped)

Optional (but highly recommended)
- Charge Pipes

You'll have both 91/93 octane (depending on region) and E85 files to switch back and forth as needed, you also get the GTS DCT flash as part of the BM3 package. On our end, everything can be done in same day, including dyno tuning.
if this gets you to 600whp, does just upgrading turbos on top of this get you to 700whp? if not, what is needed for 700whp?
turbos and meth
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      09-11-2019, 09:16 AM   #25
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Why does everyone keep suggesting e85 like it's available at every gas station? I'm not sure where you guys live but, in most places its tough to find stations that sell e85.

Realistically...what are the expectations with DPs/CPs, bmc filters, colder spark plugs, upgraded TMIC on 91/93 with an OTS or custom tune?
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Why does everyone keep suggesting e85 like it's available at every gas station? I'm not sure where you guys live but, in most places its tough to find stations that sell e85.

Realistically...what are the expectations with DPs/CPs, bmc filters, colder spark plugs, upgraded TMIC on 91/93 with an OTS or custom tune?
Was thinking the same thing.

What does it to make 600whp WITHOUT E85?
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      09-11-2019, 10:24 AM   #27
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Why does everyone keep suggesting e85 like it's available at every gas station? I'm not sure where you guys live but, in most places its tough to find stations that sell e85.

Realistically...what are the expectations with DPs/CPs, bmc filters, colder spark plugs, upgraded TMIC on 91/93 with an OTS or custom tune?
Was thinking the same thing.

What does it to make 600whp WITHOUT E85?
It's already been mentioned. Pretty simple. Even in crappy 91 gas

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Was thinking the same thing.

What does it to make 600whp WITHOUT E85?
600, no problem. Making 700 is tough without E85, even with race gas/methanol.
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      09-12-2019, 09:58 AM   #29
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Literally my favorite thing about the car, used downpipes $250, BM3 and E85 tune $800 and for around a grand the car is putting down around 600whp, with basically no mechanical modification.
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Is there an info page on benefits and drawbacks of E85 in F8x M models? I'm also curious if there's anything else that needs to be done to go back and forth between e85 and 93. I don't have any plans on going e85 on my GTS... but would like to know anyway.

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JB4, their E85 BEF loaded via MHD which allows you to adjust your mix from 0-100% E85 as you see fit, map7 which peaks around 26psi when you're on a heavy E85 mix. Normally also need the 2step colder NGK plugs gapped at 0.022", stronger chargepipes (I suggest BMS, ER or vrsf), and an intake helps also (again I suggest BMS).

Having the JB4 will give you lots of nifty features like on the fly boost adjustment per gear, ability to control the exhaust flapper open/closed on the fly (really handy if you ever decide to do downpipes), wireless logging and gauges to your smart phone, a boost gauge in dash, free maps and tuning support, etc.

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I thought stock gap was 0.022"?
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It's already been mentioned. Pretty simple. Even in crappy 91 gas

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hybrid turbo upgrade (aka stock turbos just drilled with bigger turbine/compressor wheels) or actual different / bigger turbos?
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hybrid turbo upgrade (aka stock turbos just drilled with bigger turbine/compressor wheels) or actual different / bigger turbos?
both will do it
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Why does everyone keep suggesting e85 like it's available at every gas station? I'm not sure where you guys live but, in most places its tough to find stations that sell e85.

Realistically...what are the expectations with DPs/CPs, bmc filters, colder spark plugs, upgraded TMIC on 91/93 with an OTS or custom tune?
Stage 2 BM3 91 octane runs ~460-470whp on dynojet.
E85 is a huge upgrade. Same hardware it easily runs 570+ whp on the same dyno.
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Conversely 91 octane and bigger turbos on current CA 91 (seems to have gotten worse lately) will not get you to 600. (540-550 without meth or octane booster).
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Conversely 91 octane and bigger turbos on current CA 91 (seems to have gotten worse lately) will not get you to 600. (540-550 without meth or octane booster).
California sucks. And I live here lol
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