Bootmod3 non-ZCP / ZCP (Comp) / CS / BM3-CS / BM3 STG1 91OCT dyno results

Halim@HCP · 10-30-2018, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F80 / AW / 6MT

I'm currently running the original CS map version 3.2, which I would assume is now called CS+.

Was the only change renaming to CS+, while adding CS to be more in-line with OEM CS? If so, I don't need re-flash? Please advise. Thanks!

Exactly sir.

BIGW0RM · 10-31-2018, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

Yep, the current OTS map will be updated soon to match the CS entirely. Currently the published one makes a bit more power than the actual OEM CS map which is always a nice thing of course

We'll probably just leave it on there and rename it to a CS+ or similar so both the OEM CS and the CS+ with a slight bump over CS are available.

Ive been trying to figure this out for a few days. I wondered what was up with the CS and CS+ stuff.

Where do you guys post these updates? What is the pecking order of OTS tunes? I dont need dyno charts. But is the GTS tune still the highest HP OEM like tune? Or is it the CLS? Or now the CS+ which was the old CS?

So many tunes and options Im trying to keep up.

Halim@HCP · 10-31-2018, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

Ive been trying to figure this out for a few days. I wondered what was up with the CS and CS+ stuff.

Where do you guys post these updates? What is the pecking order of OTS tunes? I dont need dyno charts. But is the GTS tune still the highest HP OEM like tune? Or is it the CLS? Or now the CS+ which was the old CS?

So many tunes and options Im trying to keep up.

There is a group on Facebook called 'bootmod3 enthusiasts' where we usually post updates.

Highest OEM tunes are CSL/GTS, then CS and ZCP.

CS+ is new new map formerly known as the CS, it shares almost same top end as the CSL/GTS. We also have the OEM CS available now, free too!

whoop_ass · 10-31-2018, 01:24 PM

Halim on my car the m4 CS feels stronger and runs more boost than m4 CSL and GTS

Strange!!

FSociety · 10-31-2018, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoop_ass

Halim on my car the m4 CS feels stronger and runs more boost than m4 CSL and GTS

Strange!!

Let's do some 100-200 or 60-130 times challenge on each OEM map

whoop_ass · 11-01-2018, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FSociety

Let's do some 100-200 or 60-130 times challenge on each OEM map

Can do but the logs dont lie!

3rd-4th Gear

M4 CSL
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-csl...g=0&data=4-8-9

M4 CS map
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-cs-...g=1&data=4-8-9

4th gear

M4 CSL
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-csl...9&zoom=446-781

M4 CS
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-cs-...g=0&data=4-8-9

you can see max absolute boost of the CS map is about 31-32psi
vs the CSL map of 30.5 or there about.

CS def feels stronger on my car for sure..

just by looking at the boost curve you get an idea of what it will look like on Dyno and the CS boost curve looks much smoother to me.

much of a much suppose remember we do not have the water injection system of CSL and i am sure that makes a huge difference keeping charge temps low

forgot to add that this is the BM3 CS so current CS+

Halim@HCP · 11-04-2018, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoop_ass

Can do but the logs dont lie!

3rd-4th Gear

M4 CSL
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-csl...g=0&data=4-8-9

M4 CS map
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-cs-...g=1&data=4-8-9

4th gear

M4 CSL
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-csl...9&zoom=446-781

M4 CS
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-cs-...g=0&data=4-8-9

you can see max absolute boost of the CS map is about 31-32psi
vs the CSL map of 30.5 or there about.

CS def feels stronger on my car for sure..

just by looking at the boost curve you get an idea of what it will look like on Dyno and the CS boost curve looks much smoother to me.

much of a much suppose remember we do not have the water injection system of CSL and i am sure that makes a huge difference keeping charge temps low

forgot to add that this is the BM3 CS so current CS+

Yes the CS+ is a tad stronger

Alfy · 11-04-2018, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoop_ass

Can do but the logs dont lie!

3rd-4th Gear

M4 CSL
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-csl...g=0&data=4-8-9

M4 CS map
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-cs-...g=1&data=4-8-9

4th gear

M4 CSL
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-csl...9&zoom=446-781

M4 CS
https://datazap.me/u/whoopass/m4-cs-...g=0&data=4-8-9

you can see max absolute boost of the CS map is about 31-32psi
vs the CSL map of 30.5 or there about.

CS def feels stronger on my car for sure..

just by looking at the boost curve you get an idea of what it will look like on Dyno and the CS boost curve looks much smoother to me.

much of a much suppose remember we do not have the water injection system of CSL and i am sure that makes a huge difference keeping charge temps low

forgot to add that this is the BM3 CS so current CS+

Something doesn't make sense here, Isn't 32psi way too much? cause I have the Bootmod Stage 1 OTS map which peaks at 22.4psi, how can the CS map push more boost?

whoop_ass · 11-04-2018, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfy

Something doesn't make sense here, Isn't 32psi way too much? cause I have the Bootmod Stage 1 OTS map which peaks at 22.4psi, how can the CS map push more boost?

Absolute boost bro,
deduct this from ambient boost

Alfy · 11-04-2018, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoop_ass

Absolute boost bro,
deduct this from ambient boost

Thanks for the clarification, my bad...

BIGW0RM · 11-04-2018, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfy

Thanks for the clarification, my bad...

I did the same thing. Mine never seems to be that different. The two readings thats is. It shocked me when I saw his log say 30PSI too on another thread. He was kind enough to educate me too.

Halim@HCP · 11-05-2018, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

I did the same thing. Mine never seems to be that different. The two readings thats is. It shocked me when I saw his log say 30PSI too on another thread. He was kind enough to educate me too.

You can just set the datalogging to relative boost

Sometimes it's nice to see the absolute.

CanAutM3 · 11-06-2018, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halim@HCP

You can just set the datalogging to relative boost

Sometimes it's nice to see the absolute.

As a tidbit, in the pure sense of the term, an absolute pressure number isn’t “boost”. The “boost” is the increased pressure provided by the charge system over athmosphere, which by definition is relative pressure. However, an absolute measure of the manifold air pressure (MAP) reading is a much better indicator of potential power output.

proTUNING Freaks · 11-06-2018, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

As a tidbit, in the pure sense of the term, an absolute pressure number isn’t “boost”. The “boost” is the increased pressure provided by the charge system over athmosphere, which by definition is relative pressure. However, an absolute measure of the manifold air pressure (MAP) reading is a much better indicator of potential power output.

Yes of course

problem is people get confused when you talk about pressure, let alone relative and absolute, instead of just calling it boost

boost is not a science term. Its just pressure and when its relative to ambient pressure its what people have referred to as boost, the word we all deeply love and respect so much

krazeykhan_m4_f83 · 11-07-2018, 03:34 PM

I got just got the BM3 yesterday and did the stage 1 OTC with max burble.

my car is originally 2018 m4 f83 Comp package.

mind me please this my first time messing with stuff like this and I know very little

my question is how much do you really gain, also can you add the GTS transmission map along with 91 Map stage 1.

or what are best combos to do. I have been looking for a while. I went to SSR-Performance in orange, they charged me $840 to buy the tune, which didn't include a cable or anything just a license, login and where to download the stuff, that it. According to the invoice it was 595 for the tune and 200 for labor. don't know what labor. the guy said he had to unlock my DME or whatever.
They didn't tell me much about it. so can you please provide a basic understanding along with how much HP and Torque you get.

I mean I do and I can feel the difference its more torque but I feel lag in power until 3000rpm and then it goes. but I don't feel much.

any help and guidance will be much appreciated.

EricSMG · 11-07-2018, 05:22 PM

These cars don't start making real power until 3k stock.... not sure I follow you^^

shay2nak · 11-07-2018, 07:15 PM

Yeah, you're off boost below 3k-3.5k depending on the tune.

BIGW0RM · 11-07-2018, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krazeykhan_m4_f83

I got just got the BM3 yesterday and did the stage 1 OTC with max burble.

my car is originally 2018 m4 f83 Comp package.

mind me please this my first time messing with stuff like this and I know very little

my question is how much do you really gain, also can you add the GTS transmission map along with 91 Map stage 1.

or what are best combos to do. I have been looking for a while. I went to SSR-Performance in orange, they charged me $840 to buy the tune, which didn't include a cable or anything just a license, login and where to download the stuff, that it. According to the invoice it was 595 for the tune and 200 for labor. don't know what labor. the guy said he had to unlock my DME or whatever.
They didn't tell me much about it. so can you please provide a basic understanding along with how much HP and Torque you get.

I mean I do and I can feel the difference its more torque but I feel lag in power until 3000rpm and then it goes. but I don't feel much.

any help and guidance will be much appreciated.

Im shocked you are not more interested on what tune you have, what settings you have and whats going on. Do you have a OTS tune? custom tune? Is your tune running right? THose things are important.

Sounds like you have BM3. Id get your login info and take a look and go from there. There are other tunes with different power ratings and torque that you can try.

I would probably suggest a new shop like EAS too. I dont know anything about your vender. But that doesn't sound right to me.

krazeykhan_m4_f83 · 11-07-2018, 11:10 PM

I am getting my own ENET. Cable tomorrow and gonna try it out. I am attaching images of what I have loaded. I will be adding the GTS transmission tune tomorrow. Any recommendations???

I do feel the power. On the sport display it has a readout of 640 max hp and 520 max torque

BIGW0RM · 11-08-2018, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krazeykhan_m4_f83

I am getting my own ENET. Cable tomorrow and gonna try it out. I am attaching images of what I have loaded. I will be adding the GTS transmission tune tomorrow. Any recommendations???

I do feel the power. On the sport display it has a readout of 640 max hp and 520 max torque

I'm not educated enough to suggest anything but that duration seems excessively high to me.

I highly suggest you read the manual. Get the cable and default your tune settings and go from there buddy. The manual is very good.

Good luck.

Halim@HCP · 11-24-2018, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krazeykhan_m4_f83

I am getting my own ENET. Cable tomorrow and gonna try it out. I am attaching images of what I have loaded. I will be adding the GTS transmission tune tomorrow. Any recommendations???

I do feel the power. On the sport display it has a readout of 640 max hp and 520 max torque

You can try the OTS settings first, in case you want something changed like duration for burble in sport mode, you can always do that

ssgm1x · 11-24-2018, 10:19 AM

Stock M3 makes more boost than a ZCP?

10-31-2018, 01:24 PM	#92
whoop_ass Captain 355 Rep 719 Posts Drives: non Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: On Earth iTrader: (0)	Halim on my car the m4 CS feels stronger and runs more boost than m4 CSL and GTS Strange!!
	Appreciate 2 FSociety3812.50 overlook637244.50 Quote

11-07-2018, 03:34 PM	#103
krazeykhan_m4_f83 Private 7 Rep 65 Posts Drives: 2018 BMW M4 F83 Convertible Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Redlands, CA iTrader: (0)	I got just got the BM3 yesterday and did the stage 1 OTC with max burble. my car is originally 2018 m4 f83 Comp package. mind me please this my first time messing with stuff like this and I know very little my question is how much do you really gain, also can you add the GTS transmission map along with 91 Map stage 1. or what are best combos to do. I have been looking for a while. I went to SSR-Performance in orange, they charged me $840 to buy the tune, which didn't include a cable or anything just a license, login and where to download the stuff, that it. According to the invoice it was 595 for the tune and 200 for labor. don't know what labor. the guy said he had to unlock my DME or whatever. They didn't tell me much about it. so can you please provide a basic understanding along with how much HP and Torque you get. I mean I do and I can feel the difference its more torque but I feel lag in power until 3000rpm and then it goes. but I don't feel much. any help and guidance will be much appreciated.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-07-2018, 05:22 PM	#104
EricSMG Captain 576 Rep 829 Posts Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	These cars don't start making real power until 3k stock.... not sure I follow you^^
	Appreciate 1 shay2nak1070.00 Quote

11-07-2018, 07:15 PM	#105
shay2nak smoke if ya got 'em 1070 Rep 2,179 Posts Drives: F80 M3/Lotus Exige/500 Abarth Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Calipornia iTrader: (0)	Yeah, you're off boost below 3k-3.5k depending on the tune.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-07-2018, 11:10 PM	#107
krazeykhan_m4_f83 Private 7 Rep 65 Posts Drives: 2018 BMW M4 F83 Convertible Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Redlands, CA iTrader: (0)	I am getting my own ENET. Cable tomorrow and gonna try it out. I am attaching images of what I have loaded. I will be adding the GTS transmission tune tomorrow. Any recommendations??? I do feel the power. On the sport display it has a readout of 640 max hp and 520 max torque Attached Images
	Appreciate 1 FSociety3812.50 Quote

11-24-2018, 10:19 AM	#110
ssgm1x Captain 419 Rep 771 Posts Drives: 2020 M340i & 2018 M3 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Cherry hill ,NJ iTrader: (0)	Stock M3 makes more boost than a ZCP? __________________ 2020 BMW M340ix Dravit Grey 2018 BMW M3 Alpine White Last edited by ssgm1x; 11-24-2018 at 03:00 PM..
	Appreciate 0 Quote