No next generation M3 sedan (F30)???? Poll.

OBI_agent · 03-22-2010, 06:18 PM

I'm really bummed by that Automobile MAG report. I was really hoping that in a few years time, I would be able to fulfil my dream of having a M3 sedan as I love the idea of having a car that can perform well in the track and also seat 4&1/2 or 5 people comfortably. And no, I dont like SUV's.

From automobile mag article:

Quote:

For the first time, there will be five different 3-series bodystyles. The four-door sedan, which will appear March 2012, touring wagon (Sep 2012), coupe (Sep 2013), and convertible (Mar 2014) will all follow the familiar 3-series formula. The newcomer to the family is the hatchback Grand Turismo version, set to appear in March 2013. The GT3 is much more lifestyle-oriented and sportier than the GT5. It has a deep and wide tailgate, but it is a single-piece unit rather than the heavy and complex two-piece hatch of the GT5, and there is more of a notchback silhouette to the rear end. In terms of height, the GT3 sits midway between the 3-series sedan and the GT5.

Please vote 'No'(option no.3 or no.4) on the Poll so that someone in the board of director's of BMW notices it and says "Wir haben einen großen Fehler gemacht. Wir sollen mal den hässlichen GT verschrottet werden und mit der Herstellung der M3 Limousine anfangen."
(Translation: "We've made a big mistake. We should let the ugly GT be scrapped and begin immediately with the manufacture of the M3 Sedan''.)
I hope that report is untrue.

I know that we won't be able to change the decision but it's better to try then to never attempt at it and make our voices heard. I'm sure that many people will vote to have a M3 sedan

And I'm also hoping this article is false

BTW, can someone tell me if the current M3 sedan is doing well in the 'sales' department or not?? I'm just wondering why BMW is doing this!

CarForHire · 03-23-2010, 10:16 PM

I see a lot of M3 E90s on the street, it has to be doing well. I'm interested in some numbers though.

Willizm · 03-23-2010, 10:33 PM

To me it seems as though the m3 sedan sells well enough, but then again it would make sense from BMW to stick the M3 to the coupe and have the M5 be the performance sedan option. I'd still take an M3 sedan with a built i-6 TT at 450hp. Got to bring my son to school in style

Ron1n · 03-24-2010, 12:08 AM

Bad..bad...BAD idea.

Without question.

OBI_agent · 03-24-2010, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarForHire

I see a lot of M3 E90s on the street, it has to be doing well. I'm interested in some numbers though.

+1000...we need some numbers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron1n

Bad..bad...BAD idea.

Without question.

+1000.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willizm

To me it seems as though the m3 sedan sells well enough, but then again it would make sense from BMW to stick the M3 to the coupe and have the M5 be the performance sedan option. I'd still take an M3 sedan with a built i-6 TT at 450hp. Got to bring my son to school in style

There are two points on why a M3 sedan should be in existence.

1) I think a M5 will never be able to handle like a M3 sedan.. It's like Cayman S vs Carrera.
2) Not everyone can afford a M5 (90K).

And

at the picking up son quote. This is such a coincidence.For the future, I wanted a quick sedan to pick my niece from her school.

ArmyBimmerDude · 03-24-2010, 12:20 PM

Sedan sales have no been doing well. Common sense dictates if sedans were selling like hotcakes, they would make one for the next generation. If you search over on M3post, you should be able to find some hard data.

By the way, would cares if you see quite a few sedans rolling around your neighborhood. We're talking world wide, not just one city. Kinda like people think that ever 335 owner is a member of this website. Ridiculous.

TheRox · 03-24-2010, 01:27 PM

I'm pretty sure the m3 started as a sedan, not a coupe.

The entire point of bmw is the performance oriented daily driver.

sedans are more practical.

ArmyBimmerDude · 03-24-2010, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRox

I'm pretty sure the m3 started as a sedan, not a coupe.

The entire point of bmw is the performance oriented daily driver.

sedans are more practical.

Because they made a 4 door E46 M3?

Outlaw 06 · 03-24-2010, 05:02 PM

This was expected because BMW always skips a generation with the M3 Sedan:

E30 - No
E36 - Yes
E46 - No
E90 -Yes
F30 - No
Follow-on gereration - Yes (?)

kgb1637 · 03-24-2010, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRox

I'm pretty sure the m3 started as a sedan, not a coupe.

The entire point of bmw is the performance oriented daily driver.

sedans are more practical.

Search...E30 M3, it was the first and a 2 door only.

GregTheStig · 03-24-2010, 05:19 PM

I like the E90 M3 A LOT. Like someone else mentioned earlier you can still have ///M performance in a sedan that's smaller, lighter, and cheaper than the M5.

CarForHire · 03-24-2010, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRox

I'm pretty sure the m3 started as a sedan, not a coupe.

The entire point of bmw is the performance oriented daily driver.

sedans are more practical.

The E30 came before the E36 though.

OBI_agent · 03-25-2010, 03:32 AM

Any numbers yet?

bavarian19 · 03-25-2010, 06:52 AM

terrible idea to scrap the sedan and make a GT

I335 · 03-25-2010, 07:03 AM

I'd like an M GT3

Schumacher · 03-25-2010, 09:25 AM

Good idea BMW. The 3 Series GT looks so good that it is worth it.

It is an estate without the space.

Outlaw 06 · 03-25-2010, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBI_agent

...a M5 will never be able to handle like a M3 sedan...

+1. The M5 has never been a real alternative to the M3 Sedan anyway. The M3 is more of an ALMS GT series car (even the E90) while the M5 is more of a high speed autobahn cruiser.

The M3 Sedan will almost certainly be back again (when the F30 platform is replaced circa 2019).

ellipsis212 · 03-25-2010, 02:54 PM

M3 sedans just went up in resale value!

EZ_TUR90 · 03-25-2010, 03:04 PM

I Love E90 M3 :'(

ellipsis212 · 03-25-2010, 03:14 PM

sayonara you beautiful beast

Fortyb · 03-25-2010, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJDiCandido

This was expected because BMW always skips a generation with the M3 Sedan:

E30 - No
E36 - Yes
E46 - No
E90 -Yes
F30 - No
Follow-on gereration - Yes (?)

The e30 model did have the M3 that was the on that started it all. 190 hp 4cylinder widebody style coupe.

Fortyb · 03-25-2010, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJDiCandido

This was expected because BMW always skips a generation with the M3 Sedan:

E30 - No
E36 - Yes
E46 - No
E90 -Yes
F30 - No
Follow-on gereration - Yes (?)

The e30 model did have the M3 that was the on that started it all. 190 hp 4cylinder widebody style coupe.

View Poll Results: Do you agree with BMW's decision of scrapping a M3 F30(sedan)& investing in the GT?
Yes. M3 sedan was a waste of money.	71	13.30%
Yes. GT sounds really good.	32	5.99%
No. M3 sedan rules. And I would rather take the station wagon over the GT.	353	66.10%
No. I wouldn't mind a GT either.	78	14.61%
Voters: 534. You may not vote on this poll

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