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      02-18-2020, 08:36 PM   #67
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Damn, I am sorry to hear. Steven Creek is the worst in my opinion, when I was looking for an allocation to place an order on a F80 Comp they initially quoted me a lower price to get me to come in and will give me a price that beat rest of the bay area dealership. I was quoted $76,845 before tax and fees and that is with a supposed $4000 discount for a 2018 M3 in Alpine White with competition package, executive package, manual transmission, and wireless charging. That was the exact same price as the MSRP. I asked, is this the price before additional incentive is apply, the CA flat out said there is no incentive for M model vehicles and said that was their invoice price and not willing to go any lower. In the end I went to a socal dealership and basically got blacklisted by Steven Creeks with Bay Area BMW dealership accusing me not being serious for purchase and just wanted a joy ride.


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      02-18-2020, 08:39 PM   #68
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That wasn’t an option when the comp package was initially released, which is when SD / / /M4 got his. It was only 20” 666 silver at first. They added the black 20” 666 and 19” 437 as options later.
Correct my previous Black M3 came with 666 Black wheels but not the imola red.
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Your friends should have done More homework !
Online info from a dealership it's not 100% always correct. I remember when I was looking for an M3 one of the dealer put Manual on the info but when I go through the pics it's a DCT!

When I first see it's indicated as manual I pass it but I went back to their web again and go through all the pics at the end I find out it was DCT

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I got my 18 M3 and it came with 19" 437 wheels since the car had a imola red paint with no extra charge.
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That wasn’t an option when the comp package was initially released, which is when SD ///M4 got his. It was only 20” 666 silver at first. They added the black 20” 666 and 19” 437 as options later.
Correct. Initial wheel for the Competition Package was the silver Style 666. My wife ordered her 2018 M3 CP with the black 19" Style 437 wheels because neither one of us wanted to clean the Style 666 wheels. They were a no-cost option.
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alot of dealership advertise alot of random stuff. its like they dont even care its wrong. i had to message them to find out if its true or not. stevens creek is kind of over price in sales. and a zcp is really not factored in kbb pricing. i didnt know what a comp pack too. but the rims are a giveaway sometimes. imagine if it was a zcp. over 52k!. i guess the dealership decided to sell the exec package and 20k miles for a higher price car.

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      02-19-2020, 12:26 PM   #72
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Looks like they did a better job on their site after the return, assuming this is the car:

https://www.stevenscreekbmw.com/cert...6483175d38.htm
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I can't help but wonder if this is because of how BMW has branded the updated M2 as the "M2C"

I feel like putting "Competition" into the default name of an adjacent model will cause more confusion over competition packages in the future. There's no shortage of threads here lamenting the BMW branding and marketing strategy lol
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M3/M4 competition have this "open" seats

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Your friends should have done More homework !
Online info from a dealership it's not 100% always correct. I remember when I was looking for an M3 one of the dealer put Manual on the info but when I go through the pics it's a DCT!

When I first see it's indicated as manual I pass it but I went back to their web again and go through all the pics at the end I find out it was DCT

Almost missed out great deals and great car 🤣
I noticed this a lot too- the problem is they're all standard manual, then the options it'll usually list the DCT. Check BMW's own inventory page, all M3/4's are listed as manuals, then when you check options, it'll show DCT if it is one.
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I can't help but wonder if this is because of how BMW has branded the updated M2 as the "M2C"

I feel like putting "Competition" into the default name of an adjacent model will cause more confusion over competition packages in the future. There's no shortage of threads here lamenting the BMW branding and marketing strategy lol
I've seen several base and ZCP cars listed as CS models. Dealers don't know what they have but they check all the boxes.
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I saw plenty of mis-advertised F8x's for sale when shopping. Dealers are shady, it's nothing new. Ultimately it's up to the buyer to understand what they are getting and it sounds like a bit of negligence from your friend.

Sucks for your friend, but IMO unless the dealer specified the magic three letter option of "ZCP" or Competition Package on the build and you have it in the paperwork I'd say he has 0 recourse.
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I saw plenty of mis-advertised F8x's for sale when shopping. Dealers are shady, it's nothing new. Ultimately it's up to the buyer to understand what they are getting and it sounds like a bit of negligence from your friend.

Sucks for your friend, but IMO unless the dealer specified the magic three letter option of "ZCP" or Competition Package on the build and you have it in the paperwork I'd say he has 0 recourse.
He already returned the car... Guess you didn’t read the thread.
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sounds like you're friend is a dummy.
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      02-19-2020, 09:12 PM   #80
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13+% for tax and license fees? WTF.
California. It's why everybody is getting the hell out of there and moving to Florida.
Wrong.

We aren't moving to humid, sweaty ass, mosquito infested Florida.
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California. It's why everybody is getting the hell out of there and moving to Florida.
Wrong.

We aren't moving to humid, sweaty ass, mosquito infested Florida.
And stay away from water bodies lol! Mess around and find a scaled friend waiting for dinner.
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1. DCT is considered a manual by most places. Frustrating when searching, but it technically is a clutchless manual not an automatic

2. Can we avoid politics hear, calling San Fran commie is just too obvious.

3. Californians aren't moving to Florida...they go to other local states.

4. Price at Stevens went up to $54,981!!! Its a 13 month cpo warranty, which is worth about 3-4k, but still, car would sell locally in South Florida for less than 50k. A cpo search shows a 33k mile 2017 cpo for 3k less.
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1. DCT is considered a manual by most places. Frustrating when searching, but it technically is a clutchless manual not an automatic

2. Can we avoid politics hear, calling San Fran commie is just too obvious.

3. Californians aren't moving to Florida...they go to other local states.

4. Price at Stevens went up to $54,981!!! Its a 13 month cpo warranty, which is worth about 3-4k, but still, car would sell locally in South Florida for less than 50k. A cpo search shows a 33k mile 2017 cpo for 3k less.
Technically it's not clutchless. The C in DCT stands for clutch.
It's an automatically shifting manual trans.
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Man, gotta know what you're buying. ZCP has so many identifiable parts it's impossible to miss. Whatever....
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