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      12-11-2013, 11:32 PM   #177
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Wow, the M3 looks alot better and loving those seats. The 0-60 times are suggestive of more like 450 crank hp. However, if you consider an E90 M3 MT vs an F80 M3 DCT, the weight difference isn't as much as I would have thought. Do a couple of bolt-ons to the E90 and you're almost there hp wise and if the exhaust is lightweight and put a lighter battery 70aH, you're saving another 40+ lbs and you get to enjoy all the glory of the S65 with a proper hydraulic steering setup. Makes the trading decision from an E90 a little more difficult and agree tuning the F80 to eek out reliable horsepower beyond a few laps is probably why BMW didn't come out with a higher hp number to make it seem like it was more of a jump in power vs the prior gen (for marketing purposes) and in line with competitors.

After all is said and done, think they did a fantastic job with this FI setup given the hand they're dealt in being forced to go FI. Makes me excited about BMW again, especially as the F30 3 series are so much more boring to drive vs the 3 series of 1-2 generations ago.


Those seats are I wonder if they will be standard or an extra included in some kind of package.

Performance-wise (based on figures alone), not too much of a jump from the E9X stock for stock but because turdbros (can't ignore that torque either), guys are gonna have a lot of fun with E85 later...& damnn they nailed that design on the F8X. The little things like the contoured roof and trunk, really enhances the appearance.
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      12-11-2013, 11:32 PM   #178
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Interesting? Everyone goes on and on about the engine, turbo's, etc. Yes the car is going to be awesome. Did anyone notice that BMW finally put BBK's on the car? in gold? I think this was the weakest flaw on the car.
YA!! finally a real set of calipers!!!
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      12-11-2013, 11:41 PM   #179
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Those seats are I wonder if they will be standard or an extra included in some kind of package.
Standard.
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      12-11-2013, 11:50 PM   #180
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Is-it only me??

The more I look at these, the more these M3/4 are what the M5/M6 should be: a mid-size sports sedan/coupé.

The future M2 will be closer in spirit and size of what the real M3 should be IMO.

Mind you, I like them. But every time I look at the latest F32 3 series, it looks waaaay to big for what a 3 series (compact sedan) should be.
Your right these cars are getting bigger.

Oh my.. I'm in love with both the M3/4!!
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      12-11-2013, 11:50 PM   #181
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I was skeptical of the M3/M4 when I first saw it just based on the design, but the engineering of this car is very impressive. The Yas Marina blue is beautiful though.

I wonder if the muffler will be black in production
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      12-12-2013, 12:00 AM   #182
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Now we're talking. 3.9? Where my haterz at? I hope this is accurate.
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      12-12-2013, 12:42 AM   #183
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BMW lap timer app? uhhh... I have that now for E92 with BMW apps.

Why is that posted here like its an M4 thing?
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      12-12-2013, 12:44 AM   #184
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Guess i may go back to filling up 25 gallons of e85 to lug back to the garage like in '07
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      12-12-2013, 12:48 AM   #185
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Is it just me or are these the new bmw halo cars?!

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      12-12-2013, 12:54 AM   #186
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I spoke to a guy and its not only about the torque. The c63 doesnt have room for a much wider tire, which it needs.
My buddy runs 285's on the rear. That is the widest I have seen without fender modification.
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      12-12-2013, 01:02 AM   #187
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The pics and videos show you just how many different tweaks and changes there are with the new m3. The video comparing your everyday commute and the racetrack was perfect. That's what this car is all about. That's what makes this car different than the Merc and Audi.

Sedan with CFR looks sick!!!!
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      12-12-2013, 01:07 AM   #188
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Now we're talking. 3.9? Where my haterz at? I hope this is accurate.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was faster than 3.9 w/ DCT. This car is going to be fast and is going to be the German "supra". Tuners must be salivating...
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      12-12-2013, 01:09 AM   #190
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The pics and videos show you just how many different tweaks and changes there are with the new m3. The video comparing your everyday commute and the racetrack was perfect. That's what this car is all about. That's what makes this car different than the Merc and Audi.

Sedan with CFR looks sick!!!!
Hoping they are telling the truth about track capability.

I track my current M3 at least 2-3x month. I am unconvinced the cooling will be enough in the summer heat. I have never had luck with turbo powered cars.

Going to wait to see how some fellow hardcore trackers do with the M3/M4. I do not like down time in the paddock.
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      12-12-2013, 01:13 AM   #191
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      12-12-2013, 01:16 AM   #192
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      12-12-2013, 01:18 AM   #193
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This car is going to be fast and is going to be the German "supra". Tuners must be salivating...
S55 18 psi in stock trim.

I am sure there is still meat on the bone, but question is how much before you have to start upgrading turbos.

Just for reference, N54 8 psi in stock trim.
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      12-12-2013, 01:20 AM   #194
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S55 18 psi in stock trim.

I am sure there is still meat on the bone, but question is how much before you have to start upgrading turbos.

Just for reference, N54 8 psi in stock trim.

This. Agreed.
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      12-12-2013, 01:28 AM   #195
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      12-12-2013, 02:00 AM   #196
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Looks good.
I'm digging those seats.
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      12-12-2013, 02:20 AM   #197
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With a lower wider stance than the e92, it is going to be awesome! But i do have concerns on the cost of ownership with all those CF parts. Hopefully, the mass production should keep the costs down. But i still think it's going hurt the pockets!
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With a lower wider stance than the e92, it is going to be awesome! But i do have concerns on the cost of ownership with all those CF parts. Hopefully, the mass production should keep the costs down. But i still think it's going hurt the pockets!
Damn right they are going to be expensive. You really don't want to break that strut brace eh
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