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      08-20-2021, 09:54 AM   #23
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gspannu is pretty close in you explanation.

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Now I love the GTS OTS burble...too much for most but it sound like a GTS track car. I have been trying for a long time to duplicate that sound in the Stg 1 93 and have failed. Right now I m running the setting

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I have been asking a similar question for long time and even worked with PTF and have got nowhere. Burbles are a low priority and create hate mail
Well... you may or may not have noticed, but there are now new settings under Config -> Exhaust Burble Type.
New settings ZCP, GTS, NON-ZCP.


This is not yet on the iOS and iPadOS apps, but available on a desktop browser...

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Wonder which sounds best on a non-comp???
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      08-20-2021, 10:00 AM   #24
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Wonder which sounds best on a non-comp???
Mine is stock (non-ZCP) with the MPE.

I am using ZCP burbles for now with the CS+ tune.
I like the progressive nature of the CS (or the GTS, CS+) tune; but the OTS burbles were just too much.

Hence, I chose ZCP burbles... happy so far.
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Well... you may or may not have noticed, but there are now new settings under Config -> Exhaust Burble Type.
New settings ZCP, GTS, NON-ZCP.


This is not yet on the iOS and iPadOS apps, but available on a desktop browser...

Attachment 2676682

Enjoy !
Awesome! I have not checked in awhile. Dzenan told me they were working on that but time line for the next IOS update was not established. I just plugged in the laptop and updated the agent. Re-config'd a stg 1 93 with GTS burp & 30/20/10 tq reduction. Will see how she sounds in the morning

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So I re-flashed with the laptop with the updated agent that allows you to choose pre-programmed burble settings for the stg 1 & 2 maps like I wanted. I used to run the GTS map cuz I loved the sound but wanted stg 1 pull and the GTS burble. So tried the GTS setting on the stg 1 map. Well it is still not the same damn it.….. But I think I made a mistake. Looking back at my flashing notes I think when I was choosing the GTS map I was choosing OTS burble style so it was a little more aggressive than the stock GTS OEM burble. So…… I guess I will play around with it a bit more and might just go back to the stg 1 with OTS burble
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So I have a new question. Has anybody been nuts enough to try all the burble settings? If so can you rate them in order from mild to wild so to speak.

My guess is:
OEM
Non-ZCP
ZCP
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OTS
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      09-03-2021, 09:55 AM   #28
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^ tunes also have different exhaust valve settings which greatly controls sound / enjoyment.

I ran a OTS CS tune which I then adjusted the exhaust valves to be more open but not wide open unless WOT above 4000RPM. Now I have the multimap and don't like the sounds. The burble might be better rumble but its less pronounced / loud
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^ tunes also have different exhaust valve settings which greatly controls sound / enjoyment.

I ran a OTS CS tune which I then adjusted the exhaust valves to be more open but not wide open unless WOT above 4000RPM. Now I have the multimap and don't like the sounds. The burble might be better rumble but its less pronounced / loud
True but I chose valves open in spt & spt+ so that is off the plate
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      09-04-2021, 04:32 AM   #30
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So I have a new question. Has anybody been nuts enough to try all the burble settings? If so can you rate them in order from mild to wild so to speak.

My guess is:
OEM
Non-ZCP
ZCP
GTS
OTS
You are correct, except remove OEM from the list.
The list order is correct if the car was non-ZCP…. otherwise OEM will just take whatever the non-tuned car values are.
So, putting a OEM burble on a GTS car is not going to reduce the burble - one would have to choose Non-ZCP or ZCP to reduce it.
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      09-10-2021, 05:07 PM   #31
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I know everyone hates burbles, and at some point I can see myself turning them off completely, but for now I think they sound pretty badass if it's not too over the top.

Just installed my AA single mid pipe on my '17 ZCP with Stage 1 multimap and wanted to share the tweaks I made. Initially the OTS settings were way too much. Since it's impossible to know what they are, I started very conservatively and was planning to deviate from there. Ended up sticking with my initial swag (for now)

Duration Sport: 0.5s
Duration Sport +: 1.0s
Aggressiveness Sport: 1.5
Aggressiveness Sport +: 3.5
Min Speed: 10
Max Speed: 100
Min RPM: 2500
Max RPM: 5000

Following video is the CS map in Sport mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7dUpRuw_b8
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Mine is stock (non-ZCP) with the MPE.

I am using ZCP burbles for now with the CS+ tune.
I like the progressive nature of the CS (or the GTS, CS+) tune; but the OTS burbles were just too much.

Hence, I chose ZCP burbles... happy so far.
Do you have a video of the ZCP burbles?

Thanks!
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I know everyone hates burbles, and at some point I can see myself turning them off completely, but for now I think they sound pretty badass if it's not too over the top.

Just installed my AA single mid pipe on my '17 ZCP with Stage 1 multimap and wanted to share the tweaks I made. Initially the OTS settings were way too much. Since it's impossible to know what they are, I started very conservatively and was planning to deviate from there. Ended up sticking with my initial swag (for now)

Duration Sport: 0.5s
Duration Sport +: 1.0s
Aggressiveness Sport: 1.5
Aggressiveness Sport +: 3.5
Min Speed: 10
Max Speed: 100
Min RPM: 2500
Max RPM: 5000

Following video is the CS map in Sport mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7dUpRuw_b8
That sounds really good!
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      09-29-2021, 09:27 AM   #34
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Do you have a video of the ZCP burbles?

Thanks!
Unfortunately no.. I do not have a video.

And with the current fuel supply situation in UK, my car is at a stand still !!!
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      10-07-2021, 04:50 PM   #35
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Dude!?!



Answered (above).

Whatever configuration settings you set in the (BM3 - OTS) MultiMap(s x2) are shared by all of the 4 submaps within it.

This is Not the case for all of the other OTS Maps.


You seem smart, so maybe you can shed some light on what I'm seeing...

The custom burble settings when configuring the multimap should be applied to all 4 maps. I get that. HOWEVER, the settings I input there are only applied (as far as I can tell) to map slot 1 with the exception of minimum RPM which is applied to all 4. I messed with this for about 2 hours today.

I changed min RPM twice just to confirm it was applied across all maps, and it was. Sport and sport+ were set to exactly the same values. What's ticking me off is that when I switch to say, slot 3 (stage 1 93) I get an excessively long and aggressive burble in sport+ compared to slot 1 (stage 1 91ACN) where I get what I set (.5s, 1.0agg).

Could this just be a function of the more aggressive map producing a proportionally larger burble? I don't get why the duration would change... that's a hard set value like min RPM is. I'm getting close to just turning them off because the aggressiveness of slot 2/3 (baseline OTS) is way too much for my liking.
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You seem smart, so maybe you can shed some light on what I'm seeing...

The custom burble settings when configuring the multimap should be applied to all 4 maps. I get that. HOWEVER, the settings I input there are only applied (as far as I can tell) to map slot 1 with the exception of minimum RPM which is applied to all 4. I messed with this for about 2 hours today.

I changed min RPM twice just to confirm it was applied across all maps, and it was. Sport and sport+ were set to exactly the same values. What's ticking me off is that when I switch to say, slot 3 (stage 1 93) I get an excessively long and aggressive burble in sport+ compared to slot 1 (stage 1 91ACN) where I get what I set (.5s, 1.0agg).

Could this just be a function of the more aggressive map producing a proportionally larger burble? I don't get why the duration would change... that's a hard set value like min RPM is. I'm getting close to just turning them off because the aggressiveness of slot 2/3 (baseline OTS) is way too much for my liking.
I have this same issue - map 3, burbles are set at .5 seconds for both Sport and Sport+, but runs way longer than that in Sport+

It is really annoying and I might just back to single map Stage2.
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I have this same issue - map 3, burbles are set at .5 seconds for both Sport and Sport+, but runs way longer than that in Sport+

It is really annoying and I might just back to single map Stage2.
I'm sure PTF has a lot more to worry/care about, but it's so annoying I don't even want to use the map, its straight gun shots for ~2 seconds. I might contact customer support and see what they say. Edit: I sent them a support request.

Have you tried burbles off? Wonder if it still runs away with them disabled completely.

Update: I flashed again with 0.5s duration and 0.5 agg for both S & S+ and it took for all maps... mostly. The aggressiveness is the only issue now. On slot 2/3 of my OTS multi (91/93 respectively) the aggressiveness ramps up significantly, so I went to customROM live adjust and set the burble aggressiveness to the same value I flashed (0.5) and it took. So whatever setting the 91/93 maps are getting for aggressiveness isn't what is set in the multimap's custom burble settings. When I went back to "adjust burble - off" the nasty loud aggressive cracks came back. Based on this, there must be some ramp up or multiplier that is being applied to the user burble settings as the map tunes get progressively more aggressive.

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PTF got back to me. I've been told that the custom burble setting in the config menu are only applied to map slot 1, NOT all 4 maps. This is contrary to what I've seen with respect to min and max RPM - those are certainly applied to all 4 maps. Seems pretty short-sighted to not have the config settings apply to all maps slots, they specifically say that the CEL and other items on that page are applied across all 4, why in the heck would the burble not be? Seems off.

They also cited the CustomROM Release note from June 16, 2021, which I read in its entirety before buying the multimap. It has no mention of what specific config setting are applied in what manner.
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I ended up just going back to single map Stage2 93 - problem solved, but agree with you, bit annoying….
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from a technical perspective, how is this burble actually achieved?
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from a technical perspective, how is this burble actually achieved?
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not sure if this was already answered, but I've found that the comp has more burbles than standard from factory, but it's nothing like you get from burble tunes even on a light minor setting
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