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M8 Competition Nürburgring 7:32.79 - Sport Auto
Should it have been faster for a flagship from BMW? I wonder how it will compare with the new G82 M4.
Here's how it stacks against others from Sport Auto Supertest Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Christian Gebhardt 7:23.77 450 / 1513 Ferrari 812 Superfast Christian Gebhardt 7:27.48 800 / 1729 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) Christian Gebhardt 7:28.00 500 / 1461 Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 Christian Gebhardt 7:28.00 610 / 1544 Porsche 911 Carrera S (992) Christian Gebhardt 7:30.00 450 / 1563 Porsche Cayman GT4 (718) Christian Gebhardt 7:32.00 420 / 1432 Porsche 911 Carrera S Christian Gebhardt 7:34.00 420 / 1494 Honda NSX (Mk II) Christian Gebhardt 7:36.00 581 / 1766 BMW M5 Competition (F90) Christian Gebhardt 7:36.00 626 / 1901 Porsche Cayman GT4 (981) Christian Gebhardt 7:42.00 385 / 1340 Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG S Coupe Christian Gebhardt 7:44.00 510 / 1823 Porsche 718 Cayman S Christian Gebhardt 7:47.00 350 / 1416 Audi TT RS Coupe (Mk III) Christian Gebhardt 7:48.00 400 / 1481 Mercedes - AMG A45 S (W177) (Trofeo R) Christian Gebhardt 7:48.80 421 / 1638 Aston Martin Vantage GT8 Christian Gebhardt 7:50.00 446 / 1541 Toyota GR Supra Christian Gebhardt 7.52,17 BMW M2 Competition Christian Gebhardt 7.52,36 Lotus Exige S (V6) Christian Gebhardt 7:53.00 350 / 1130
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That's a quick time. But fast lap doesn't mean fun car though. That's the part bmw is missing. Give me the gt3 or gt4 instead.
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Nice showing by the Supra!!! I thought M8 is supposed to be luxury A Bahn missile, not a track star, so that seems ok to me and pretty cool it’s close to 718 gt4 You’d pick the gt4 to go lapping with your friends and you’d pick the m8 for a frankfurt to Düsseldorf weekend trip. Don’t think about it in terms of trade offs. Think in terms of how you can assemble a fleet of these in your garage to cover all your different vehicle needs |
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The GT4 time is incredible, especially considering it’s a manual. I bet the GT4 with PDK runs 7:19. |
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Agree, the 8er in general is just a case of identity crisis. It doesn't know if it wants to be a luxury car or a sports car, but in the ends fails to do either. Its not as luxurious as a flagship should be (unlike the S-coupe), and its not as fun or engaging as a sports car should be (especially compared to a 911, AMG GT or R8 which could be had at similar pricing or just a tad more).
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The M8 is a $150,000 German muscle car. |
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That's a HUGE, HEAVY car pulling 'ring track times equivalent to a dedicated lightweight mid-engined 2 seater Cayman GT4.
That's kinda freaking impressive.
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A defining feature of a muscle car is that it must be affordable to the average joe. The M8 is no more a German muscle car than the Aston Martin Vantage is a Brit muscle car or the Lexus LC is a Japanese muscle car. They are luxurious sporty cruisers for the very rich, not muscle cars.
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Funny that the list left off the Civic Type R.
For what type of car, I think the M8 is doing quite well around a track that long. Will be interesting to see what it does around tighter tracks like Streets of Willow and it's "more open" neighbor Willow Springs |
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Is that ASD I am hearing blasting my speakers?
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All of their times can be found here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_auto_(Germany) |
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Hard to believe there's any question about this being impressive. It's a 4500# grand tourer on P Zeros, independently tested (not by M), and it ran equal to a 991.1 GT3. Sheesh.
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Yes about equal to what is now a pretty old GT3 (7 years ago) and hasn't a good portion of the track been repaved over the years making it several seconds faster and meaning times are harder and hard to compare from several years apart? Last edited by Leftkeylife; 07-28-2020 at 09:07 AM.. |
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But no matter. talking 2+ tons and 1,000+ lbs. more than the GT3 on high performance street tires. P Zeros at that. I'm not comparing the two, but rather using the GT3 as a reference. The cars are not competitors in any sense. It's a grand tourer not intended to compete with lap times, and it runs a 7:32. To my knowledge BMW M didn't even publish a lap time for it. I don't know who's buying M8's, but they're not at the track. 7:32 means that it offers substantially more limit performance than 99% of those drivers will ever utilize. Can argue M shouldn't be going this direction (I would), but that doesn't mean the objective performance accomplishment isn't remarkable.
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Strong performance coming from a lot of these large(r) saloon cars, and even SUV's these days. Within the 7:30-7:40 bracket there are a bunch - M5/8Competitions, Panamera turbo, AMG GT 4dr. And the Taycan @ I believe 5600 lbs and no special tire did 7:42 and the RSQ8 also 7:42. Who would have ever thought... There is also a difference of one strong lap of performance and sustained laps at near similar time. While some may come close to a GT3 of many years ago in a single lap, I'd estimate they'd fall further and further behind with additional laps. The GT3 may not have the hp but I think it has endurance and repeatability that stands stronger to go with its pretty incredible lap times (all things considered). Last edited by Leftkeylife; 07-28-2020 at 10:49 AM.. |
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