08-30-2017, 11:18 PM | #1 |
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M4 vs Corvette Grand Sport
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Newbie here. I am on the fence on picking either the M4 or the Corvette Grand Sport. I test drove both over the weekend and love them both. However, since i will be buying(instead of leasing), and will keep it for at least 7 or 8 years, the most important thing to me is reliability and maintenance cost. I know this is a m4 blog, but hopefully you guys can give an honest opinion. The question i have are: 1. Which car is more reliable? 2. Which cost less to maintain(oil change, brake/rotor change, etc.) thanks! Joe |
08-30-2017, 11:30 PM | #2 |
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Since you test drive both of them I am sure you are very well aware that they are significantly different cars. The corvette, much like my 16 Camaro SS is much more raw than the M4. This can be quite tiring IMHO and does not have the versatility of the M4. Basically the M4 is more than one type of car. If you want that rawness for the next 7-8 years than the Grand Sport is a phenomenal car. But like I said since you rest drove them I am sure you know this already.
In terms of reliability I would say the Corvette. I am not saying that because the M4 is unreliable, but more so that the cost of maintenance on American sports cars tends to be, on average, much less than German ones. Not to mention changing out big money parts down the line are much cheaper. For example, crate LT1 Engine is roughly $10-20k cheaper than a frat S55 (if you can get one). Also, another thing you need to consider is whether you will Track the car. If not, the M4 is more than enough and will be very very reliable, fun, and versatile. The Grand Sport is the car you want if you are going to Track a lot. HOWEVER, with all that being said the biggest money pit with the corvette will be tires. The torque of that LT1 with the my Camaro and the GS means that I burn through tires quicker than I have with any car I have ever owned. The M4 can be just as bad, but it is really bad on the chevys. I honestly think you cannot go wrong with either. But you just have to think, do I want an all purpose car or a raw track car to drive everyday. All that being said, it is kind of wash cost of ownership wise.
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I don't think there is much difference in cost to own over the warranty period. Corvette will eat expensive tires quickly. But the N/A pushrod engine seems like it has less to go wrong when the warranty expires.
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At the end of the day we are literally saying the same thing about the two cars that matter here, so it seems you just wanted to nitpick my experience about a car he is not even considering and that I have had extensive seat time in. I am okay with that and my ego is not bruised. People have different experiences, that is just life. And totally reasonable people can disagree. At the end of the day this shit is all subjective, feeling of compliance is not an objective measure but purely subjective. Which is why I said, multiple times, that I am sure he already knows what they feel like after test driving them.
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If it is a daily driver and you drive it even semi the way it's designed for, you are looking at 2 sets of tires a year. That's roughly $5k annually or $416/mth just for tires alone.
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How many miles are you expecting out of a set? Isn't the average driver around 12k a year?
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Still no joke, but certainly not $5k a year. |
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Well, I see your in NJ, might drive less there. Here in CA, you can rack up 15K to 20K a year easily.
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If you do get grand sport get ready for thumbs up, waving hands and smiles wherever you go. It can get embarrassing if you pass in front of a school...
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This was like 4 years ago now.
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Hi, I went through 2x tire sets per year with my f80 also.
You can make tire cost higher anytime you want with the right foot. OP, what did you end up with? I would personally just go with mechanical breakdown insurance (e.g. Geico) and pick whichever one you want. Full warranty is great. Bmw probably will be smoother experience if you need to utilize said warranty (loaners, cushy lounges, etc) |
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I drove a Z51 C7 the other day with MRC shocks and the 8sp auto. The car is excellent. The chassis is one of the best I've felt outside of Porsche. I'd get the Corvette GS. I had the F80 for a little over a year and never really gelled with it. The Corvette talks to you through the wheel and seat in a way the F8X can't match. Also, the GS damping completely destroys the BMW EDC no matter what programming it has. For me the reason to move away from the M3 weren't the fart noises, electric steering, etc... it was how poorly the dampers were calibrated, and I didn't want to rip the EDC out of a $75k car.
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If you're going with a 2 seater, there are way better options than the m4 or vette.
The vette will fall apart in 2-3 years and make all kinds of noises that will drive you nuts. The M4 is light years more refined and better built but again... not the king of the stable compared to everything else out there. I would go Cayman S or base 991.2 911 or find a used 991.1 GTS or even Nissan GTR. |
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I've owned both. I would go Grand Sport over and over again if I had the choice. The ride is much more compliant, it drives well in both everyday and weekend situations, and I have more fun in the GS.
Fit and finish won't be as good, but go in knowing that and you'll be fine. It's a blast to drive and realistically I would assume it'd be cheaper to maintain and own.
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It can drive around 4 adults in relative comfort Fit at least 4 golf bags in the truck with the seats folded Hit the track if need be Be docile on the daily commute if desired Sorry. The Cayman, 911, and Vette can not do all of those things. Hence why some choose the M4 with Farts and all over those other rides. |
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To answer OP's question, if you get a vette - get the MT (and never go into eco mode) and you are golden. The whole power train will basically be bulletproof. Also, i think you get 5 free oil changes with the vette - although you won't have free maintenance like the F82. Outside of the free BMW maintenance window - the vette will probably be considerably cheaper to maintain. You will be servicing it at a Chevy dealer after all... but don't worry though, they usually have a "corvette guy" - so you don't have to worry about a high school kid handling your car. Last edited by shiv.nandak; 11-02-2017 at 10:30 AM.. |
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