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PS4S with 265 fronts (vs 255 stock PSS) Mosport Driver development track and Grand prix track
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not on the car yet still where pictured
won them at the track so got them before I needed to switch
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I've had a number of tires where the steering felt like absolute shit when I drove off with them. 100-500 miles later and they were brilliant.
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IIRC from that thread about 4S, Canaut had pointed out that 265 4S tire are an OE spec mercedes rear tire, may have something to do with it.
CS was designed for 265 fronts (cup 2 though)
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Why not? BMW does it all the time. Or what do you think is the difference between base, competition and CS engines?
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I may be in the minority saying any version of the C4 is not worth it. I drove my friend’s 991.2 C4 GTS Targa and wasn’t impressed. The steering feel with AWD is diminished to a level only slightly better than an M3 with camber plates, and gone is the playful nature to be enjoyed on the street.
AWD in a Porsche IMO just damps the character of the car, and adds too much traction (and weight). It becomes unfeasible to get it to move around on the street, and there isn’t any payback at the track either. What I’m saying may be controversial, but I want my car to change attitude with the throttle, it is an essential part of the experience for me. Even a C2S has borderline too much traction on the street, although that may pay dividends on the track. To each his own.
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There are two 265 PS4S. I tried the generic one. I think it's a bit to wide for a 9" rim. Mercedes fitment is slightly more narrow.
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I owned 2012 Turbo S. I like driving my M4 more. MPE and MP HAS. slightly wider tires and lighter wheels. Turbo was clearly faster and stopped on a dime. Yet, M4 more entertaining. I also recently just About bought a Carrera 4 GTS with all the performance add-ons. Just not worth it to me.
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He then sold C2S for an M3 CS, which he thought was much more fun on the street. I guess they never gave him the gallon of Porsche branded coolaid with any of his cars.
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Just an observation but that is, I believe, the worst performing 911 of that generation. It is heavier and possibly less stiff than a C4S convertible. The targa is that bulky. It's ~350-400 pounds heavier than a low weight base C2. I have not driven all the variations of the 991.2 so I'm not commenting on your impression, just commenting that I also would expect the c4s targa to be the "worst" feeling of the bunch and may have to drive a well specced c4s or gts 4 to get a real feel of the negatives of AWD. FWIW, I just bought an AWD 911 because for me the f80 platform made me "fear" high HP RWD applications where I live due to constant traction issues.
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As far as I know, at present time, the PS4S in 265/35R19 size only exists in generic spec.
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I was interpreting your comments of the F80 making you fear powerful rwd cars as referring to lack of traction even in warm conditions (we know the F80 lights up the rear tires very easily). So I was saying that even though the 911 is a powerful rwd car, its engine placement and overall engineering put the power down with no problem. |
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