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      12-07-2022, 10:10 AM   #551
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No track use, but do a good amount of roll racing, nothing crazy. Right now my OCI is at 5K, but was wondering if it was necessary to do it sooner around the 3K mark if there is fuel dilution with E85 that you guys know about that would effect certain oils.

Will switch over to X-Cess next change if this is what you recommend, unless there is another you recommend thatís more $ friendly (I know Edge and PP Euro formulas are favorited on here I see, just more concerned about the E85 aspect that would cover all basis).

I donít necessarily care about the oil weight, just want to know which would be better for my application. Living in SoCal so ďcoldĒ isnít the biggest factor lol.

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If you are tuned on full E85, use Xcess Gen 2 and change at 3k while also doing an oil analysis at that time with a TAN measurement.

Running on full E85 dumps in a ton of fuel even for street driving, so fuel dilution is a major issue. As a result, only use a 40 weight with a high HTHS and LL-01 spec.

Cheaper LL-01 oils have a minimum level of HTHS required to meet LL-01 (3.5). Xcess does a bit better with HTHS of 3.7, so you have a bit more protection for the money.
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If you are tuned on full E85, use Xcess Gen 2 and change at 3k while also doing an oil analysis at that time with a TAN measurement.

Running on full E85 dumps in a ton of fuel even for street driving, so fuel dilution is a major issue. As a result, only use a 40 weight with a high HTHS and LL-01 spec.

Cheaper LL-01 oils have a minimum level of HTHS required to meet LL-01 (3.5). Xcess does a bit better with HTHS of 3.7, so you have a bit more protection for the money.
Usually I set between E40 to E70, I havenít ventured into full E85. On the OTS Multimap. Will switch over to X-Cess 5W40. Thank you for all the feedback!
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Usually I set between E40 to E70, I havenít ventured into full E85. On the OTS Multimap. Will switch over to X-Cess 5W40. Thank you for all the feedback!
Full E85 in Socal is roughly E70. Iíve never seen it go beyond that.
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Mine was done as per schedule and it says 17,000km to the next change

Having seen how straightforward the oil and filter is to change I was going to do a change now as it's 11,000 Km since last one

Would Castrol Edge 05W30 M suffice?

I know it's not LL04 but give how quickly it will be changed soon I think be good.

I'm in Dublin Ireland. And 95 octane unleaded is the only petrol available

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Mine was done as per schedule and it says 17,000km to the next change

Having seen how straightforward the oil and filter is to change I was going to do a change now as it's 11,000 Km since last one

Would Castrol Edge 05W30 M suffice?

I know it's not LL04 but give how quickly it will be changed soon I think be good.

I'm in Dublin Ireland. And 95 octane unleaded is the only petrol available

Thanks
Merely curious, why no 98 octane in Dublin? Sounds like California here where we can only get 91 AKI which is close to 95 RON I believe.

P.S. It shows that Castrol Edge 5w30 M is LL-04 approved on their site.
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Mine was done as per schedule and it says 17,000km to the next change

Having seen how straightforward the oil and filter is to change I was going to do a change now as it's 11,000 Km since last one

Would Castrol Edge 05W30 M suffice?

I know it's not LL04 but give how quickly it will be changed soon I think be good.

I'm in Dublin Ireland. And 95 octane unleaded is the only petrol available

Thanks
Merely curious, why no 98 octane in Dublin? Sounds like California here where we can only get 91 AKI which is close to 95 RON I believe.

P.S. It shows that Castrol Edge 5w30 M is LL-04 approved on their site.

From memory Shell V power which is 98 hasn't been sold in Republic of Ireland for years. But is widely available in UK.

When I bough my the Castrol edge 5w30 I saw LL-04 on the can.

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Yeah, absolutely.
Sport is API approved oil, so there are oxidation limits.
Following up on this with another question.

If running Motul Sport 5W40 for 12 months, is it acceptable to continue running the same oil, with an oil change obviously, or do folks cycle between oil types?

I was thinking perhaps switching to Motul Excess2 5W40 or Redline 5W40 for this coming year instead continuing with Sport 5W40 as it's not as widely available this year it seems.
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Yeah, absolutely.
Sport is API approved oil, so there are oxidation limits.
Following up on this with another question.

If running Motul Sport 5W40 for 12 months, is it acceptable to continue running the same oil, with an oil change obviously, or do folks cycle between oil types?

I was thinking perhaps switching to Motul Excess2 5W40 or Redline 5W40 for this coming year instead continuing with Sport 5W40 as it's not as widely available this year it seems.
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Following up on this with another question.

If running Motul Sport 5W40 for 12 months, is it acceptable to continue running the same oil, with an oil change obviously, or do folks cycle between oil types?

I was thinking perhaps switching to Motul Excess2 5W40 or Redline 5W40 for this coming year instead continuing with Sport 5W40 as it's not as widely available this year it seems.
This is actually my plan with the new car, which is my daily driver as well (Redline 5W30 in early Spring for track months, then in Fall change to Xcess Gen2 5W40)
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This is actually my plan with the new car, which is my daily driver as well (Redline 5W30 in early Spring for track months, then in Fall change to Xcess Gen2 5W40)
I was about to do a change to Amsoil 5-40 Euro from Castrol 5-40 Euro for a track event in late Feb at VIR. Redline in the past 12-15 years ago had made my engines feel noisier and more "loose". Been using Amsoil since until this thread I switched to Castrol 5-40 because $.
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Castrol Euro is Oem Bmw oil.
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Following up on this with another question.

If running Motul Sport 5W40 for 12 months, is it acceptable to continue running the same oil, with an oil change obviously, or do folks cycle between oil types?

I was thinking perhaps switching to Motul Excess2 5W40 or Redline 5W40 for this coming year instead continuing with Sport 5W40 as it's not as widely available this year it seems.
I would move to X-Cess. It has more oxidation and deposit limits as it is actually approved oil.
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I ended up buying Xcess. Will Xcess 5W40 be ok for a dozen track days? Is its HTHS sufficient for that?

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This is actually my plan with the new car, which is my daily driver as well (Redline 5W30 in early Spring for track months, then in Fall change to Xcess Gen2 5W40)
Why not a higher weight Redline option for track months and something like 0w30 or 40 for fall/winter?
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Why not a higher weight Redline option for track months and something like 0w30 or 40 for fall/winter?
The Redline 5W-30 I believe is pretty stout, meets LL-01 spec, is what BW uses in at least some of their cars, etc. And I think edycol or someone here has commented that this 5W-30 is really more like a 40 weight in terms of HTHS. And since the car is also daily driver it feels more appropriate than going with a full-blown race oil.

Yeah, regarding winter months, the 0w may make some sense, though anymore our winters here in South Jersey have been pretty mild that I don't feel super-compelled to go that route. The car also sits in a garage overnight.
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The newest LL-01 on the block is Castrol Euro 0W-30.

HTHS of 3.5, pour point of -60 indicates Group IV base stock.

I am likely going to give this one a go on my next OCI.

https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-06244...s%2C142&sr=8-3
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