Question about 200 Cell Downpipes

[Full_of_fit]

First of i would like to thank you for your time and helping me making an informed decision. I tried ARM catted downpipe's but even after sending the first downpipe back do to the downpipe hitting the trans bolt, please correct if I am wrong.
After much thought and budgeting I personally, just my opinion, I have narrowed down my choices the the following brands:

-Wagner Tuning EU6 sounds interesting but even after reading the product information I have no idea, why EU6 is a big selling point that they stress.

-Agency Power, although I have to admit, I have not heard any reviews one way or another.

-Evolution Racewerks downpipes that seem to have had good reviews in the past but nothing recently.

-AA Gesi Catted downpipes are definitely interesting but I have only seen 1 video which was not very helpful

My question is for people with personnel experience with these on downpipes on their car, not hear say.

I will be mating this to my Valvetronic Designs full exhaust.

I have also seen the debate about the bents in the downpipe, any this design being better since this is what BMW produced on the factory downpipes.

Last question I promise, if 3 of the 4 have 200 cell catted downpipes, what makes them sound different? Placements of the cats? Materials used in production?

Thank you for your help, I want to know reviews from owners or previous owners of the downpipe, obviously sound will vary from exhaust to exhaust but what did the owners observer as after a fit and long term use of theses downpipes.

Thank you andavnce for your hlpe,
Ian

[sdhasher21]

What’s your main reason for going catted?

I also had the ARM downpipes and moved to AA gesi downpipes. Mainly to reduce smell but mostly to not worry about annual smog where I live. No visual, just obd testing.

[Full_of_fit]

Originally Posted by sdhasher21

What’s your main reason for going catted?

I also had the ARM downpipes and moved to AA gesi downpipes. Mainly to reduce smell but mostly to not worry about annual smog where I live. No visual, just obd testing.

main reason is smell. I drive my kids to different sports and the up catless version smells to much. In Texas we have emission test but all of us have “ friends ” to help out with that.
I had ARM as well fitment as crap.

[sdhasher21]

Originally Posted by Full_of_fit

main reason is smell. I drive my kids to different sports and the up catless version smells to much. In Texas we have emission test but all of us have “ friends ” to help out with that.
I had ARM as well fitment as crap.

Only time I’ll smell anything is at startup if I also have the windows down. Other than that, runs just like oem. Current stage 2 for tune.

I’d imagine the eu6 cats would run similar but without the CEL guarantee.

[Full_of_fit]

Originally Posted by sdhasher21

Only time I’ll smell anything is at startup if I also have the windows down. Other than that, runs just like oem. Current stage 2 for tune.

I’d imagine the eu6 cats would run similar but without the CEL guarantee.

I have had the ARM 200 cel downpipe, I had no issues with the smell. I misspoke and did not say I wanted a 200 cel vs Catless, which a lot of people really like, I just cannot go that route due to having my kids with me and the smell.

Mainly I wanted real world experiences and reviews from the brands I listed. Thank you for your help
Ian

[mike@x-ph.com]

if the CEL is a concern, get the Active Autowerke

If it's not, get the MAD catted. The fitment and quality are excellent for an excellent price.

The sound of the 200 CEL is louder than the 400 CEL but still considerably lower than catless and, more importantly, a lot less rasp.

[Full_of_fit]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

if the CEL is a concern, get the Active Autowerke

If it's not, get the MAD catted. The fitment and quality are excellent for an excellent price.

The sound of the 200 CEL is louder than the 400 CEL but still considerably lower than catless and, more importantly, a lot less rasp.

The best vendor on this forum! As you can probably tell, I looked at your website for the choices that I mentioned. When I was searching down pipes on this website, I saw that at one point you had an ER downpipe yourself. Would you still recommend the other one?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Full_of_fit

The best vendor on this forum! As you can probably tell, I looked at your website for the choices that I mentioned. When I was searching down pipes on this website, I saw that at one point you had an ER downpipe yourself. Would you still recommend the other one?

Thank you

The ER one is so nice that It felt bad installing it under the car. It's a piece of art, handbuilt in the US, with a superb finish.

The result once it's installed is the same as any proven brand, so its not easy to recommend it to my customers when they could spend so much less for other brands.

[Full_of_fit]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Thank you

The ER one is so nice that It felt bad installing it under the car. It's a piece of art, handbuilt in the US, with a superb finish.

The result once it's installed is the same as any proven brand, so its not easy to recommend it to my customers when they could spend so much less for other brands.

I do appreciate your honesty. I am just hesitant to go with other brands. I know we all paid a lot of money for our cars. Therefore, whenever we do or me personally, do an upgrade, I try to do something that is on par with the value of our cars.

[b_w.]

Why not stick with stock downpipes?

[Full_of_fit]

Originally Posted by b_w.

Why not stick with stock downpipes?

Honestly the sound. Secondly I will be getting a tune afterwards.

[Full_of_fit]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

if the CEL is a concern, get the Active Autowerke

If it's not, get the MAD catted. The fitment and quality are excellent for an excellent price.

The sound of the 200 CEL is louder than the 400 CEL but still considerably lower than catless and, more importantly, a lot less rasp.

Order placed 👍. Thank you once again,
Ian

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Full_of_fit

Order placed 👍. Thank you once again,
Ian

My pleasure, congrats

[greysea]

Originally Posted by Full_of_fit

Order placed 👍. Thank you once again,
Ian

Just curious which one you ordered. And let us know how it sounds once installed. Im stoked for you.

[Full_of_fit]

Originally Posted by greysea

Just curious which one you ordered. And let us know how it sounds once installed. Im stoked for you.

I ended up ordering the MAD one based on Mikes advice. I would go out to dinner then tell the chef how to do his job. I took Mikes advice because he is the subject matter expert. He could have easily up sold me but he didn’t.
This is why I have always ordered from him. Yes sir will do. I have a video clips of my car with the Arm down pipes before I took them off. I wanted to see how it sounded, sounded great minus the rattle from the downpipe. Will share MAD downpipe video after it’s installed 👍

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Full_of_fit

I ended up ordering the MAD one based on Mikes advice. I would go out to dinner then tell the chef how to do his job. I took Mikes advice because he is the subject matter expert. He could have easily up sold me but he didn’t.
This is why I have always ordered from him. Yes sir will do. I have a video clips of my car with the Arm down pipes before I took them off. I wanted to see how it sounded, sounded great minus the rattle from the downpipe. Will share MAD downpipe video after it’s installed 👍

Thank you for the kind words

Looking forward to your feedback once the new downpipes are installed

[Info@mad-us.com]

Originally Posted by Full_of_fit

I ended up ordering the MAD one based on Mikes advice. I would go out to dinner then tell the chef how to do his job. I took Mikes advice because he is the subject matter expert. He could have easily up sold me but he didn’t.
This is why I have always ordered from him. Yes sir will do. I have a video clips of my car with the Arm down pipes before I took them off. I wanted to see how it sounded, sounded great minus the rattle from the downpipe. Will share MAD downpipe video after it’s installed 👍

Nice! Let us know how it goes

[Full_of_fit]

Here is a cold start video of the Mad 200 Cell dowpipe, courtesy of Mike at XPH.
I did not have time to post a driving or a rev sound yet. I will keep you informed on thoughts on sound and get some better clips. Coming from the ARM downpipe with fitment issues this downpipe install was much easier since everything had enough space. Here are 3 pics of the fitment then the video. The downpipe is paired with the Valvetronic Designs stainless steel exhaust.
Remember this is just a cold start test.

[Full_of_fit]

Sorry guys for some reason whenever I try and upload the video it say invalid file. I’m busy but will figure it out and post sound clips. I think the best way to do that is from inside the cars so you that you can get a true idea of the sound.

[Info@mad-us.com]

Originally Posted by Full_of_fit

Sorry guys for some reason whenever I try and upload the video it say invalid file. I’m busy but will figure it out and post sound clips. I think the best way to do that is from inside the cars so you that you can get a true idea of the sound.

You can throw it on youtube right from your phone. If its on youtube already just post the link.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Full_of_fit

Here is a cold start video of the Mad 200 Cell dowpipe, courtesy of Mike at XPH.
I did not have time to post a driving or a rev sound yet. I will keep you informed on thoughts on sound and get some better clips. Coming from the ARM downpipe with fitment issues this downpipe install was much easier since everything had enough space. Here are 3 pics of the fitment then the video. The downpipe is paired with the Valvetronic Designs stainless steel exhaust.
Remember this is just a cold start test.

Congrats

[Full_of_fit]

Originally Posted by Info@mad-us.com

You can throw it on youtube right from your phone. If its on youtube already just post the link.

Is YouTube the only way to put a video on the forums? there’s no way to post it directly from your phone or from another hosting platform?