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      12-11-2013, 08:44 AM   #133
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The 4.1s they report is not the official time. Its the magazine's own time. I think the old m3 was more like 4.3s when autobild reported it.
Fair, it is not an official quote from BMW. However, I don't believe any magazine have tested the car yet, so where does number come from if it's not from the BMW press release kit?
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      12-11-2013, 08:55 AM   #134
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OMG! Both cars look so good. They did a fantastic job with the press photos (are these even official press photos?) this time around.
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      12-11-2013, 09:09 AM   #135
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Im sold, I love the 4 door tho. M3 it is.
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      12-11-2013, 09:10 AM   #136
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      12-11-2013, 09:13 AM   #137
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I can't stop looking at these pics!! these cars are going to be insane. I can't even start to imagine after some modding what they will look like
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      12-11-2013, 09:15 AM   #138
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What the hell is wrong with the engine?
+1. The engine seems great! Only drawback I can see is that it won't sound as good as a V8.
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      12-11-2013, 09:20 AM   #139
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dont speak German.

but from what i can hear with engine noise. its what i thought it would be.
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      12-11-2013, 09:20 AM   #140
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The M3 IS BEAUTIFUL! Might be time to go back to a sedan. I'd like to see the M4 in another color though. Alpine White.
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You know, someone else mentioned this in one of the other threads and I realized it myself. A LOT of people who like the new M3/4 don't drive an M3 right now. I am not trying to bash people or anything, but when it comes to the whole turbo/electrical steering debate, I don't think people should be allowed to speak (hypothetically obviously!). If you don't own the current V8, your opinion is as good as anyone else's, and you may as well say something that is completely untrue. There are obviously still people who own the current M3 and they like the direction the new car is taking and that's fine, but if you were to filter those responses in all the forum threads here and consider only the M3 owners, there'd be a 50-50% split, if not more would be in favor of the V8.

I also remember seeing a lot of these "my next car is M3" people in the E9X forum in the past, a lot of ideas, dreams, and a lot of them ended up in 135s and 335s and started creating 335 vs M3 threads. It's one thing to say it and another to actually take the keys. Just saying
I sold my 2012 E92 M3 to make room for my M4. My M4 is ordered through my dealership and I can't wait to take delivery in June or July (my guess given my build week). I liked the V8, but this is the right direction for me. Also, my Porsche Cayenne S always had a better exhaust note than the M3, though it couldn't beat my M3's induction noise. Either way, everybody wins. If people don't like the new M3/M4, just don't buy it and go another direction.
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      12-11-2013, 09:22 AM   #142
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i will be disappointed if the sedans base price is mid 60s. that's too rich for my blood unless it has a bunch of standard features for that money.

crossing fingers
I would think low 60s for the sedan. 2k more for coupe? A lot of money for sure, but I wouldn't mind a completely stripped out YMB/Cloth/6MT, with LED and ZCP when available and call it a day. That should be around mid 60k for those options (I hope)

But I think it's pretty obvious that the majority of the people like the M3 more. It's gorgeous and in terms of pure performance, it'll own our E9x's.
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      12-11-2013, 09:25 AM   #143
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Can't ask for more, love F82!
Hope can save enough after LCI.
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      12-11-2013, 09:29 AM   #144
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In the video it looks to me like the M3 has a bit more body roll in comparison to the M4...
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      12-11-2013, 09:30 AM   #145
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Both are stunning!
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      12-11-2013, 09:31 AM   #146
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Sadly I don´t know the exact last base price of the E92M3 ... but from what I remember I would say ~5000€ more for the new car.
Thank you for posting the info.
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      12-11-2013, 09:41 AM   #147
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I cant believe that I am going to have this M4! This is probably the exact combo that I am going to order too. AY, Full Black Leather, Black/Polished rims (which by the way, I think are a really cool and different accent!).

The only thing is I would like to see more interior pics of the seats (Front and Back) as well as the trims. That trim in the M4 under the CF looks like black chrome or maybe piano or tinted aluminum? Also, I want to see the other interior colors!

I guess that ///M stripe on the roof didnt make it to production. That sucks! I also thought that was a really cool touch. I would have rather had that on the roof and a simple "Vader" ///M stripe on the seats than that M badge they currently show on the seats.
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      12-11-2013, 09:47 AM   #148
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Wow, I'm definitely impressed with the exterior and interior of the Yas Marina M3. I can't even imagine what a fully loaded sans the ceramic brakes will cost here in Canada since the e92 was at 89k plus ridiculous taxes.

I went through 2 e92 335s and longed for the naturally aspirated cars of the past hence picked up the m3 & love every part of this V8. Especially love that I have to think when I drive the current M3 - liking having to know which gear I'm in when I punch the gas since there's hardly anything below 5k rpm in high gear etc.

Nevertheless after seeing this video & pics, I'm smitten. The size of the car reminds me of my old e39 but I'm hoping the M engineers were able to make this car drive like the current car in some respect... more of a linear power delivery etc. Not sure if it's possible with turbos?

Nway, can't wait to read all the reviews from fellow members and journalists like Chris Harris who used to own the e92 and Steve Scutliffe.
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      12-11-2013, 09:48 AM   #149
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4.6s to 100km/h with DCT (4.8 with 6MT)

4.1s is a hell of an improvment
I dont think it's going to be that big of an improvement. I dont think BMW will have the F80/82 official numbers at 4.1 sec to 100 km/h with the F10 official numbers at 4.4 sec to 100 km/h.

BMW M always keeps the current M3 slower than the current M5.
So the DCT F80/82 will probably be .2 slower than the F10 M5 to 100 km/h , that puts the E90/92 M3 maybe .2 sec at most slower than the F80/82.
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I dont think it's going to be that big of an improvement. I dont think BMW will have the F80/82 official numbers at 4.1 sec to 100 km/h with the F10 official numbers at 4.4 sec to 100 km/h.

BMW M always keeps the current M3 slower than the current M5.
So the DCT F80/82 will probably be .2 slower than the F10 M5 to 100 km/h , that puts the E90/92 M3 maybe .2 sec at most slower than the F80/82.
IIRC from the BMW specs for 0-100km/h

The E92 DCT was listed faster than the E60
The E46 was listed faster the the E39

Why wouldn't it be the same for the F8X
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I dont think it's going to be that big of an improvement. I dont think BMW will have the F80/82 official numbers at 4.1 sec to 100 km/h with the F10 official numbers at 4.4 sec to 100 km/h.

BMW M always keeps the current M3 slower than the current M5.
So the DCT F80/82 will probably be .2 slower than the F10 M5 to 100 km/h , that puts the E90/92 M3 maybe .2 sec at most slower than the F80/82.
Official numbers are out and it's 4.1 sec with DCT and 4.3 sec with MT for both, F80 and F82.
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      12-11-2013, 09:53 AM   #153
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It does kind of look japanese with all of the wild and busy styling

I like that it's wider and lower, rear end looks better. I can't get over the hood shape.

Meh, it will probably grow on me. Would like to see the M4 in black instead of the puke yellow
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      12-11-2013, 09:55 AM   #154
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Finally, BMW kind of woke up and went back to the E46 M3-kind of way of doing an M3 (and M4): performance with a bunch of styling and color.

Observations:

- interior photos show some kind of step up from Extended but less than Full Leather, as the bottom of the doors, most center console and some parts of the under dash are still plastic. Much, much nicer than any M3 before but somewhat still artificially restricted for no business reason. Hopefully this is the new Extended Leather option and the real Full Leather will be available.

- Seats looks much better than the E9x M3, but they also look as the base sport seats without thigh support. So this opens the door to a full blown ZCP with real goodies other than different wheels and EDC. In other words, forget about the days of the $2500 ZCP package. This could be $3500 and up...

- This M3/M4 must have CCB. The standard F30/F32 M-Sport calipers (with M floting rotors) in this car are unbecoming.

- The rear bumper is busy-looking. I would guess that the first mod would be at least painting the diffuser. JC Whitney called and they want their muffler tips back, by the way.

- Front bumper is nice. That's all.

- These 2 colors (blue and yellow) are not that great looking, IMO.

- Wheels look great. Black wheels is a fad that must die.

- Engine room looks impressive with that CF brace. But when a brace looks more interesting than the engine cover then that means that something is wrong.

- Like the 405lbs.ft of torque, kind of disappointed in the 430hp. But again, that will be fixed by the ZCP.

Overall, I'm getting an LCI M3. It will be expensive, but f**k it... I like it.
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