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      01-16-2021, 07:01 PM   #67
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So what, was just voicing my opinion.
The GTS had OLED tail lights in Europe too...
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This I know, but Euro version has amber colored turn signals, not red. Let it go!
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Does anyone know the weight delta between the US GTS seats/brackets/sliders and the Euro versions?
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Does anyone know the weight delta between the US GTS seats/brackets/sliders and the Euro versions?
I can weigh a stock US seat with sliders and seat belt attachment if someone can snag a euro weight.
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I can weigh a stock US seat with sliders and seat belt attachment if someone can snag a euro weight.
I was looking in google because you'd think a press release would directly address the lack of weight savings in the US version!
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I can get the weight of the Euro Seats tonight as I have an extra set.
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Does anyone know the weight delta between the US GTS seats/brackets/sliders and the Euro versions?
Stock GTS US seat with sliders weighs ~50-51lbs. As weighed when swapping mine out this past weekend.

OMP WRC-R seat with OEM sliders, Brey Krause side-mounts, Brey Krause lap belt attachments, Brey Krause sub bar, and Scroth Profi 2x2 FHR 6-point harness weighs ~40lbs. The hardware adds a lot of weight - the sliders themselves aren't very heavy.

OMP WRC-R seat alone weighs 19.4lbs.

Recaro Carbon ABE (M4 GTS EU seat) weighs 10lbs.

So swapping the driver seat from GTS US to EU seat would save you around 20lbs (40lbs for both driver and passenger).
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Euro seats are very light, most articles claim a 50% weight reduction, (I question that) but if US stock weighs 50 lbs, I suspect 2 would weigh over a 100 lbs, and if a Euro cf seat weighs 10 lbs, 2 weighing 20 lbs, plus brackets about 5 lbs total (guessing here) I feel you would save 85 lbs or so by swapping. If you opt to mount the harness use with these seats, the mounting hardware would add more, as would the brackets that need to be welded to the floor to mount the harness. I have an unmounted set with brackets I can weigh when I get some free time.
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Euro seats are very light, most articles claim a 50% weight reduction, (I question that) but if US stock weighs 50 lbs, I suspect 2 would weigh over a 100 lbs, and if a Euro cf seat weighs 10 lbs, 2 weighing 20 lbs, plus brackets about 5 lbs total (guessing here) I feel you would save 85 lbs or so by swapping. If you opt to mount the harness use with these seats, the mounting hardware would add more, as would the brackets that need to be welded to the floor to mount the harness. I have an unmounted set with brackets I can weigh when I get some free time.
How do you figure that from the weights quoted above?

The US GTS seat itself (not the sliders) weighs about 40 pounds. The Euro GTS seats weigh 10 pounds each but have side-mount brackets and hardware that weighs ~5 pounds per seat. It is not possible to save 85 lbs by swapping in two 15 lb seats for two 40 lb seats.

At most you would save 50 pounds, and that is without any provision for 6 point belts.
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Never forget the sliders/side mounts/rail weight, they are quite heavy and add a lot to weight to the 'shell' of the aftermarket seat that is indeed quite light
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