F82 Roll Cage Requirements

jddunworth · 01-22-2020, 06:46 PM

So I am looking into the process of getting my SCCA license so that I can start to track my M4 Comp and do a few races every now and then. I have some minor mods on the car such as lowering springs which I believe puts me in the Street Touring Ultra class (STU)? Is a roll cage always necessary in order for me to use my car in the driving courses and on the track? I looked through the GCR and online but was still confused as to if every car always needs one. I am looking into some of the RSR bolt on cages but would like to save $2.5k if it isn't required. Thanks!

GTABurnout · 02-18-2020, 12:13 PM

So most track days are not requiring a cage in cars used for just timed sessions or driver education. If you want to go door to door racing you will need a cage, and in my opinion a cheaper car to start with.

Door to door racing is a whole different world when it comes to safety. A cage is the first part, seats, belts, fire suppression, suit, helmet, etc...

I assume you just want to take your car to a few track days for that you usually need a helmet and a safe car. Thats it.

Gomeler · 02-18-2020, 12:58 PM

We just had a lively discussion on what people thought was necessary for taking a F8x out to the track, probably a good read for you -> https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1686961.

Like GTABurnout said, grab a helmet, consider slapping some pads and fluid on the car, and have some fun. If you enjoy yourself you can then decide if your F82 is the car you want to track, or if it is worth grabbing something cheaper to run. I'd highly recommend doing some HPDEs with your local NASA/SCCA/BMWCCA/PCA organizations, and get some instruction. You'll learn a lot quite quickly.

nicknaz · 02-18-2020, 04:50 PM

Oh man, don’t do it.

Building up an f8x for stu as your first car to w2w is going to be $$$$$

My $0.02 do a pro school to get your full license right away or do a school run by your local region and meet some people and get your novice permit and race with that. Rent time in spec e30 or spec Miata Or an e36m racer at first to see if you like the classes and the club before diving in right away with your full build

I just did that process last year, after several years of HPDE with z435, f80 and 911 turbo type of street cars, and am happy to discuss over PM if you would like.

My current w2w car is an na8 SM that was pro built, setup and maintained (that I got used for a big discount over building it new...) and I think it’s absolutely the cheapest and most accessible way to start in w2w

01-22-2020, 06:46 PM	#1
jddunworth Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	F82 Roll Cage Requirements So I am looking into the process of getting my SCCA license so that I can start to track my M4 Comp and do a few races every now and then. I have some minor mods on the car such as lowering springs which I believe puts me in the Street Touring Ultra class (STU)? Is a roll cage always necessary in order for me to use my car in the driving courses and on the track? I looked through the GCR and online but was still confused as to if every car always needs one. I am looking into some of the RSR bolt on cages but would like to save $2.5k if it isn't required. Thanks!
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02-18-2020, 12:13 PM	#2
GTABurnout Private First Class 80 Rep 104 Posts Drives: M4 Manual Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Tucson iTrader: (0)	So most track days are not requiring a cage in cars used for just timed sessions or driver education. If you want to go door to door racing you will need a cage, and in my opinion a cheaper car to start with. Door to door racing is a whole different world when it comes to safety. A cage is the first part, seats, belts, fire suppression, suit, helmet, etc... I assume you just want to take your car to a few track days for that you usually need a helmet and a safe car. Thats it.
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Gomeler Lieutenant 500 Rep 411 Posts Drives: '16 M235iR, '16 M4 GTS Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Boulder, CO iTrader: (0)	We just had a lively discussion on what people thought was necessary for taking a F8x out to the track, probably a good read for you -> https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1686961. Like GTABurnout said, grab a helmet, consider slapping some pads and fluid on the car, and have some fun. If you enjoy yourself you can then decide if your F82 is the car you want to track, or if it is worth grabbing something cheaper to run. I'd highly recommend doing some HPDEs with your local NASA/SCCA/BMWCCA/PCA organizations, and get some instruction. You'll learn a lot quite quickly.
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02-18-2020, 04:50 PM	#4
nicknaz Lieutenant General 3187 Rep 10,509 Posts Drives: C6Z Join Date: May 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	Oh man, don’t do it. Building up an f8x for stu as your first car to w2w is going to be $$$$$ My $0.02 do a pro school to get your full license right away or do a school run by your local region and meet some people and get your novice permit and race with that. Rent time in spec e30 or spec Miata Or an e36m racer at first to see if you like the classes and the club before diving in right away with your full build I just did that process last year, after several years of HPDE with z435, f80 and 911 turbo type of street cars, and am happy to discuss over PM if you would like. My current w2w car is an na8 SM that was pro built, setup and maintained (that I got used for a big discount over building it new...) and I think it’s absolutely the cheapest and most accessible way to start in w2w
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