01-15-2014, 09:32 PM | #89 |
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I don't understand these arguments that say "people don't cross shop this or that."
When you're talking about the best performance cars in the world, they're all going to be cross shopped. If you limit yourself to one or the other, you're missing out on the experience of driving a lot of great cars. I'm cross shopping everything from a used E90M to a 2014 Cayman S to the new Z06, because they are all great cars in their own right and I'd love to drive them all. I can afford any of them and I could make them all fit with my lifestyle. At this moment, the F80 seems to be the sweet spot for me, and it's probably what I'll end up with. |
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Saying "people don't cross shop this or that" is one of the stupidest things I see on this forum. People want what they want. Why that is so hard for people to understand, I'll never know. In deciding whether to replace my E90, I cross shopped an M5, an E63 AMG, my old E90 with a built motor, the F80, and the dual combination of a Honda Accord Hybrid with a C7. I concluded the E63 and the M5 were for old men who worried about their image more than driving, though they didn't realize that themselves, my E90 was a miracle which needed a little more power and that building S65 engines was horrifically expensive, the F80 will probably be great but I'll need to wait for the reviews, and the jury is still out on the C7 because I want to know more about the Z06. Pat Last edited by catpat8000; 01-15-2014 at 11:13 PM.. |
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01-16-2014, 01:59 AM | #91 |
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Okay then: Why not an HPE500 or HPE600 or HPE1000 instead??? It will certainly smoke a Z06 for less.
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01-16-2014, 07:53 AM | #93 |
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The M4 and the ZO6 are two completely different cars and cannot be cross shopped. If anything compare the M4 v/s C7-Z51.
Credit where its due, the C7-Z51 alone makes a very strong case against the M4 (If I'm ok with just 2 seats) and am looking for a sports car with much better tech all around. The C7 Z51 is much more of a potent track weapon than the M4 with better and (cheaper) aftermarket support. |
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01-16-2014, 12:27 PM | #98 |
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The price difference between the z06 and m4 is going to be at a minimum $30k between the base models and I would be VERY surprised if the new z06 cost under $100,000. As it is better than the out going zr1 which cost $110kish new
M6 and C7Z06 is a better comparison M4 and C7 stingray is a better comparison These 2 comparisons will be cross shopped, I doubt m4 vs z06 will be. |
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01-16-2014, 04:14 PM | #99 |
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Cross shopping, I do what I want
So looking at my daily commute, a Prius Plug-in or a Tesla makes the most sense.
But when sitting in traffic, I might as well be comfortable, so a 2012 or 2013 S63 AMG looks good too. And I love the driving involvement from the M3, so the new M4 goes on the list. And being able to choose which vehicle I drive every day, I might as well go C7 Z06 + Prius. Or S-class +M4? I need some test-drives... |
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01-16-2014, 04:20 PM | #100 | |
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its going to have a base price under 100k, now with packages it can become a 100k car all day. |
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01-16-2014, 04:28 PM | #101 | |
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01-16-2014, 11:50 PM | #102 | |
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But apart from the staggering acceleration, it's not a nimble, enjoyable car like the M3. It's an autobahn cruiser, which is why I say it (and the M5, which is the same only slower) are cars for old men who don't want to turn. Pat |
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01-17-2014, 05:20 PM | #103 | |
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01-20-2014, 10:35 PM | #104 |
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I have owned many M cars & never thought I would own a Corvette. My last 3 M-cars: 2007 MZ4, 2007 E60 M5, 2011 ZCP M3. Last Wed I picked up a loaded C7 Z51. I am on a wait list for the M4 & the new C7 Z06. My goal is to keep the C7 for a year then move into something else. If I like the C7 (still in break-in) then the Z06 will be my next ride unless something else comes out. I think one problem most don't consider when they leave BMW and move to Corvette the dealer service experience is completely different.. Its like comparing a NASCAR event to F1.
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01-20-2014, 10:40 PM | #105 |
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Believe me, I've thought of that. As a longtime BMW & Mercedes owner, I know I am spoiled by the dealer experience. Not always perfect, but generally you are made to feel special. I can only imagine what it's like at the Chevy dealer.
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01-27-2014, 02:46 PM | #106 |
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This is funny, given the fact that a dozen or so people in this thread have already said that they're cross-shopping those two. I suppose they're doing the impossible. Good work folks, breaking the laws of the universe, one car at a time.
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01-27-2014, 03:21 PM | #107 | |
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01-27-2014, 03:28 PM | #108 | |
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The real problem with the M5/E63 is that they are WAY over contented. Personally I don't need a power trunk, soft close door, power sunshade for the sunroof etc. Take out all those motors and electronics and you could probably drop 300+ lbs. My M5 is a nice car, but I won't be buying another. Too much power for the street and too heavy for the track. Would rather have kept my 750 or M3. M5 is too much of a compromise. |
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01-27-2014, 04:18 PM | #109 | |
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It's basically the all season tires of the trio and not too shabby of a compromise. A very capable track car, but will never be confused with an autox mobile, but sit inside one and go for a long cruise in most 'track oriented' cars and you'll long for the 5. (my opinions obviously - the M5 sure does move around larger tracks quite well all while padding you in luxury). |
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