SSOTT

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by F83

Sorry to go back to politics but...
It is absolutely ASTOUNDING to me that 40% of the nation still thinks Trump is doing a good job.

Well ... of course you know this, but really what people are doing is either hoping with emotion or hating against a culture (and a miasma of smaller more horrible reasons).

Of course my largest complaint is against the baby-boomers who have basically triple mortgaged our financial future to help themselves and they're far from done. It will be interesting to see if we have the will to let them suffer in old age or continue paying their bills ...

But us Gen-Xers aren't much better - we've gone along with all of it without protest - pretty much the prime reason I'd like to see Beto in the Whitehouse is purely to get some fresh insight.

Anyway, I don't think it's truly that people believe in Trump, they simply have nothing else to believe in, so they're clinging to all that's left. Minne and I know: we lived through the Jesse Ventura years. I voted for him! Didn't work.

Originally Posted by minn19

When the economy crashes etc that approval rating will fall into the 20s. But, until then as long as people are doing well he probably stay around where he is at now. There isn't much else he can do to prove he is a moronic asshole so they obviously don't care about that.

Yeah, but boy i gotta say it's taking a long time - i thought we'd have crashed by now. awhile ago we moved a decent duration of living expenses into bonds, munis, CDs, etc, with the rest in the market for the long haul. So boy scout motto and all that, but it is taking awhile ... the yield curve is skimming the tree tops but just keeps on goin

Originally Posted by minn19

Yah, I know. I just like the pissy/angry way he says it.

Hey, unless you're leased, if you're ok with minimal but non-negligible risk, I'd go for it! Although if there is a crash coming there'll be a LOT of cheap mods - AND CARS - coming on the market ... and in a crash cash is king so you might want to keep the mod war chest closed for a bit.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by F83

- At worst he conspired with Russia to subvert democracy

I'd more say he bumbled into subverting American democracy through ignorance, greed, and myopia, but that's splitting hairs

Anyway, it's amazing anyone thinks the Murder Twins are so eccstatically happy for any reason other than because they visibly and obviously own the President of the United States, and half of America doesn't believe it or care.



With so many American doubters, enablers, and conspiracy theorists, no matter what happens to Trump, these guys have used Trump to build rich fertile treasonous soil they can continue to farm and harvest long after Trump leaves.

like, seriously - just watch that - these guys kackle like school kids for 5 minutes!

It's like the Legion of Doom.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by Arcades

something something car warranty, something something engine blow, something something don't do it.

Gg this is what happens when you disappear for too long: we had to train the junior to sound like you!

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by F83

- At best he committed campaign finance felonies

Oh! one last thing ... as of last Friday, it's 100% that Trump is totally and completely legally fucked.

The guy he called his attorney for the campaign finance violations, the guy he referred people to speak to, pled guilty, was convicted, and got 3 years in prison. He even got time for lying to Congress is pretty unique just on its own.

Anyway, it bears repeating:

A dude accused of crimes just had his attorney convicted for those crimes ... Again, the lawyer was convicted for crimes his client is accused of! Oh, and said attorney also flipped.

So in that scenario, with the lawyer flipped and convicted, what kind of defense can the client possibly have? NONE. ZERO. ZILCH. And the crimes in this case enabled the President to become the President.

Trump's attorneys better be negotiating a guilty plea right now or this thing is going burn.


and none of that even touches conspiracy with Russia or Don Jr or Jared or Ivana. That's a whole separate case of fucked, and that investigation is far from over.

Oh, and then there's obstruction, which, given it's been done in the open about 20 times, will be another easy one.

Oh, and then there's the other financial crimes like tax fraud, SEC violations, and running a criminal enterprise ... which Trump's family will also be implicated in.

So, yeah, fucked.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by Lups

Gg this is what happens when you disappear for too long: we had to train the junior to sound like you!

Still learning!~

[04RC51]

Just checking in to see what everyone is bitching about today? Gas prices in France, border security, global warming, fake outrage? Lets get it all out in the open!

Sup Wah and Lups !

I got a Range Rover Sport Supercharged and sold my F82. I have no business even being here anymore. Thanks for not deleting my account though!

[minn19]

Originally Posted by 04RC51

Just checking in to see what everyone is bitching about today? Gas prices in France, border security, global warming, fake outrage? Lets get it all out in the open!

Sup Wah and Lups !

I got a Range Rover Sport Supercharged and sold my F82. I have no business even being here anymore. Thanks for not deleting my account though!

Sweet ride! But, I suspect we will see you complaining about being at the dealer a lot with that thing. At least they are really nice!

[minn19]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Hey, unless you're leased, if you're ok with minimal but non-negligible risk, I'd go for it! Although if there is a crash coming there'll be a LOT of cheap mods - AND CARS - coming on the market ... and in a crash cash is king so you might want to keep the mod war chest closed for a bit.

Very true, since it is obviously winter I'd wait until spring anyway. Unless some nice deals show up etc earlier. Also I bought this one and got a really nice deal on a BMW Platinum extended warranty contract to 100k. I'm not sure I want to cancel that just to tune.........Ahh first world decisions/problems.

I'm getting the HK replaced in two weeks so that has taken a chunk out of my mod budget.

[F83]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

I'd more say he bumbled into subverting American democracy through ignorance, greed, and myopia, but that's splitting hairs

.

You forgot pathological narcissism, laziness and stupidity.

All true but increasingly I fear we will see that this was willful collusion. I’ve believed for some time that Russia used him in the campaign and he was too stupid and lazy to see it for what it is.

Now I fear he was actively in cahoots with the Kremlin.

Anyway, I am confident that the Mueller report will expose all. Then we just need to be ready for the shitstorm that follows.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by F83

Anyway, I am confident that the Mueller report will expose all.

I wasn't until 2 weeks ago, but now, boy oh boy is he in big trouble. So much trouble that i'm no longer confident it will be a report (or only a report I should say)

I think the DOJ may go for indicting the President as we've crossed into Constitutional crisis: a sitting President who's independently running a criminal enterprise, who criminally acquired his office through illegal campaign practices and potentially colluding with an enemy foreign power.

At this point the only question is, is the President above the law? If yes, then we have a monarch (or dictator), if no, then he has to be indicted.

[minn19]

GrussGott, back to the tuning thing. These guys have me intrigued because Steve Dinan is behind it/working with them. His no compete must have expired as he is doing the same business model as before (tunes with warranties). Not sure why I'm asking your opinion, except for the fact that ours have lined up pretty closely on this topic in the past. I like this over Dinan products just for the fact it is flashed instead of an installed control module. Hence it is considerably cheaper and easier to install/uninstall etc. I wonder if their warranty service if something went wrong would be better since they are trying to build up a new company?

https://carbahnautoworks.com/racing-products-service/

They are right by you, go get your car tuned and tell me what you think.

[F83]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

I wasn't until 2 weeks ago, but now, boy oh boy is he in big trouble. So much trouble that i'm no longer confident it will be a report (or only a report I should say)

I think the DOJ may go for indicting the President as we've crossed into Constitutional crisis: a sitting President who's independently running a criminal enterprise, who criminally acquired his office through illegal campaign practices and potentially colluding with an enemy foreign power.

At this point the only question is, is the President above the law? If yes, then we have a monarch (or dictator), if no, then he has to be indicted.

All this AND YET....

40% Approval.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by Lups

4/4 one on one plus the kid chats about my kids are done for the year! That means I am done parenting for this year!

Robin, the youngest is apparently a perfect child, if we exclude the minor things like him telling his teachers he can't either count or read so he didn't need to do any of their work all autumn semester. When he got busted in the chat, he told the teacher he wanted to spend the school hours playing.

"Yes, I've heard about the family Lups. This fits the pattern"

Julian forgot how to read or write or to count this year also, apparently he was busy doing renovations so he couldn't do the demanding school work. When he got busted, he told the teacher that he isn't lazy, but if this excuse could fly, why not use it?

"Yes, fits the pattern. We have talked about your kids in the teachers lounge a few times."

By the time Lili's chat was coming around I was ready to die.

"Oh, she is an epic student. A steady student, prudent, willing to handle problems. When someone says something mean to her, she destroys them funnily, not too humiliatingly and walks off. We have talked about her style in the teachers lounge. She seems to be the easy kid in your family."

Well, I got my hopes up, a stupid human I am.

So today was my hellraisers chat. She's a year younger than any other student in her building and hitting the seventh grade next year (we start a year later here than you do normally) which means she gets to pick a new school or class with an emphasis on some topic.

I was a few minutes early so the teacher told me very kindly that...

"You have a very special child. I'm not being mean, it's just a new challenge for me in my career after 25 years of teaching".

Well, that started off well...

"I thought a guidance councelor should be present" *Anna dies a bit*.

Then she went through her progress, all topics, history, religion, math, pe, science, civics, finnish, swedish, english and what ever else they try to stuff the kids with.

Was trying to figure out why the GC was needed there, apparently all her teachers had marked her down for a recommendation if she wants to move to a school that emphasis their subject.

So the teacher went on and on, apparently my kid is a bit stubborn but all in all eager to learn and good with her peers. Again, why the hell was the GC there?

"I'm eager to see what you end up picking, K." The GC said.

"Yes, I want to go to math school."

" we talked about this, there are hundreds of kids trying and there is a test to get in and math isn't your strongest subject. Besides, all your classmates would probably be boys".

"They shave down their teeth these days. They don't bite much these days anymore"

" yes, but math isn't your strongest subject."

"Ehem, she has gotten a steady 9 1/2 from all three tests this year, and I recall taking points off for not writing perfect sentences when requested to do so for the result"

" yes, but hundreds of kids apply for it and it would be too demanding since she is a year younger than other kids"

I just sat there...

" Well, I haven't had the time to put in any effort in math this year, but I'm sure I can be perfect by the time the test is in february. I need the extra math to reach my future goals and I think I'm more than suited to operate in the level needed, even if I am younger. My mom and dad will let me apply, I will be recommended by the math teacher apparently and my home class teacher had no complaints to list. I'm suitable."

"Yes but"

"Sir, it seems all adults in my life are willing to support my educational goals and you're trying to keep me back. Are you sure you're perfectly suitable for your chosen career?"

We had a moment of silence I ended with a thank you and by telling her home class teacher she will be applying to the math school and then I walked away.

"I taught you to respect authorities."

"Yes, that was a but mean but that was the second time he told me I couldn't do it."

"Well, he can be filed under the shitty adult clause: respect needs to be mutual"

Then I took her and her friends out for pizza and there are many of those even if she is a huge nerd.

"I was called to the GC's office today mom. I asked my teacher to come with me because of the conflict and I know the rule: never be alone in a room with an authority you don't want to be with (I might have gone all #metoo on my kids). Anyway, he said he thought about it and that he was wrong. He said sorry and also that he as an old math teacher is willing to help me by giving me sheets with problems in them.".

I just got an email from the teacher, the gc. After the formalities it said this:

"I have encouraged children to find their path the last 20 years of my career and I was also your old math teacher, Anna (I fucking know, he was awesome then). I was told by your daughter's teacher that your child is not a normal student, but I still tried to push the patterns I saw. After two interactions with Kaarin, I too now agree she is determined and I wish all the best to the people in her future who piss her off as badly as I did. The feedback was respectful but instant and spot on.

All the best to your family, I too have been informed now that I will have three more of these to look forward to."

Well, I guess that one is settled now.

I only have 6 years and 3 months of her in the house so I guess I'll try to survive.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Lups

"I was called to the GC's office today mom. I asked my teacher to come with me because of the conflict and I know the rule: never be alone in a room with an authority you don't want to be with (I might have gone all #metoo on my kids). Anyway, he said he thought about it and that he was wrong. He said sorry and also that he as an old math teacher is willing to help me by giving me sheets with problems in them.".

I just got an email from the teacher. After the formalities it said this:

"I have encouraged children to find their path the last 20 years of my career and I was also your old math teacher, Anna (I fucking know, he was awesome then). I was told by your daughter's teacher that your child is not a normal student, but I still tried to push the patterns I saw. After two interactions with Kaarin, I too now agree she is determined and I wish all the best to the people in her future who piss her off as badly as I did. The feedback was respectful but instant and spot on.

All the best to your family, I too have been informed now that I will have three more of these to look forward to."

Well, I guess that one is settled now.

I only have 6 years and 3 months of her in the house so I guess I'll try to survive.

How many kids do you have? I thought you just had two?

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by minn19

GrussGott, back to the tuning thing. These guys have me intrigued because Steve Dinan is behind it/working with them. His no compete must have expired as he is doing the same business model as before (tunes with warranties).

My core issue has been calling these things "warranties", as they're insurance (as it pertains to your engine exploding vs the electronics in their tune failing). As such, you're counting on the vendor to pay for damage THEY DEEM CAUSED by their product ... and that's the key.

So a friend of mine got a brand new 3-series, did a Dinan tune, engine blew up, Dinan said they'd pay for it if BMWNA said in writing it was the fault of the tune, which of course they wouldn't, and BMWNA refused to honor the warranty work due to modification. So catch-22: both companies can say they're complying with their written promise, but neither is paying (all-in it cost him about $15k as he had to replace the engine himself and then took a hit on resale).

Now the historic argument here is, "yeah but if the tuner didn't honor their insurance we'd all know!" Well ... did you know about my friend's case before I told you? Nope. Plus Dinan (and presumably others) understandably doesn't release any numbers of how many claims they're gotten vs paid.

In short, you gotta assume if your engine blows due to anything, you're paying for it ... but, hey, you might get lucky and one of them will. Thus I'd say the premium for the insurance isn't worth it, and you're better off going with the tune you like, however there is just an emotional peace of mind that might be worth it even if you intellectually know it's not a great deal.

If I was gonna tune, I'd probably go with them just for that emotional win, but I won't tune this engine - it's already got plenty of power for me and there's enough anecdotal evidence to say it can risky.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

My core issue has been calling these things "warranties", as they're insurance (as it pertains to your engine exploding vs the electronics in their tune failing). As such, you're counting on the vendor to pay for damage THEY DEEM CAUSED by their product ... and that's the key.

So a friend of mine got a brand new 3-series, did a Dinan tune, engine blew up, Dinan said they'd pay for it if BMWNA said in writing it was the fault of the tune, which of course they wouldn't, and BMWNA refused to honor the warranty work due to modification. So catch-22: both companies can say they're complying with their written promise, but neither is paying (all-in it cost him about $15k as he had to replace the engine himself and then took a hit on resale).

Now the historic argument here is, "yeah but if the tuner didn't honor their insurance we'd all know!" Well ... did you know about my friend's case before I told you? Nope. Plus Dinan (and presumably others) understandably doesn't release any numbers of how many claims they're gotten vs paid.

In short, you gotta assume if your engine blows due to anything, you're paying for it ... but, hey, you might get lucky and one of them will. Thus I'd say the premium for the insurance isn't worth it, and you're better off going with the tune you like, however there is just an emotional peace of mind that might be worth it even if you intellectually know it's not a great deal.

If I was gonna tune, I'd probably go with them just for that emotional win, but I won't tune this engine - it's already got plenty of power for me and there's enough anecdotal evidence to say it can risky.

Well said and thanks for confirming what I was thinking as well. Can I afford to replace a S55 if it blows, yes. Do I want to no. Nor do I want to be without a car while each side fights as to who is going to or not going to pay.

It definitely has enough power, but like most, I always want more......

[GrussGott]

In today's Fucked update:

GUILTY: Conspiracy against the United States of America


Butina admitted to a multiyear influence campaign coordinated through Alexander Torshin, a Russian official, with ties to the NRA. She had served as an interpreter for Torshin as he attended its annual conventions, and her profile as a self-made gun activist in Putin’s restrictive Russia charmed the NRA.

Butina and Alexander Torshin invited NRA leaders to Moscow in December 2015, a delegation that included David Keene, a former NRA president and past head of the powerful American Conservative Union. Documents reviewed previously by The Washington Post show the group met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

After the meeting ended, Butina sent Torshin a message: “We should let them express their gratitude now, we will put pressure on them quietly later.”

Here's Torshin with Tom Delay and other Republicans:


FUN FUCKED UPDATE!

Alexander Torshin was a Deputy Governor of the Bank of Russia. He's 65, and the official retirement age is 60. Anyway, the BoR issued a one sentence statement on Nov 30th that Torshin has retired. No word from Torshin on his future plans.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by minn19

How many kids do you have? I thought you just had two?

Oh I wish!

Nah, I have four, plus the stolen ones (fine, I volunteer for a shelter for abused women as a babysitter so the kids from bad families can experience a normal one. I promise you I'm extremely dull in real life, completely capable of not losing a kid or two!). Mom traumas, episode 2000 and nine, basically the ssott only knows about my girls. They are the nut ones, the boys are normal, well, almost.

The eldest is a member here, one of you actually answered her back when she was bitching about the poor traffic reading skills of the bmw drivers years ago. The rest just reads this forum at times to learn English.

11, 10, 8 and 6, a tight group but all of them are ego slayers.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

In today's Fucked update:

GUILTY: Conspiracy against the United States of America


Butina admitted to a multiyear influence campaign coordinated through Alexander Torshin, a Russian official, with ties to the NRA. She had served as an interpreter for Torshin as he attended its annual conventions, and her profile as a self-made gun activist in Putin’s restrictive Russia charmed the NRA.

Butina and Alexander Torshin invited NRA leaders to Moscow in December 2015, a delegation that included David Keene, a former NRA president and past head of the powerful American Conservative Union. Documents reviewed previously by The Washington Post show the group met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

After the meeting ended, Butina sent Torshin a message: “We should let them express their gratitude now, we will put pressure on them quietly later.”

Here's Torshin with Tom Delay and other Republicans:


FUN FUCKED UPDATE!

Alexander Torshin was a Deputy Governor of the Bank of Russia. He's 65, and the official retirement age is 60. Anyway, the BoR issued a one sentence statement on Nov 30th that Torshin has retired. No word from Torshin on his future plans.

I keep sitting here, wide awake... someone somewhere seriously needs to realize soon how the Russians played us all and make it stop.

[Captain Blood]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

In today's Fucked update:

GUILTY: Conspiracy against the United States of America


Butina admitted to a multiyear influence campaign coordinated through Alexander Torshin, a Russian official, with ties to the NRA. She had served as an interpreter for Torshin as he attended its annual conventions, and her profile as a self-made gun activist in Putin's restrictive Russia charmed the NRA.

Butina and Alexander Torshin invited NRA leaders to Moscow in December 2015, a delegation that included David Keene, a former NRA president and past head of the powerful American Conservative Union. Documents reviewed previously by The Washington Post show the group met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

After the meeting ended, Butina sent Torshin a message: "We should let them express their gratitude now, we will put pressure on them quietly later."

Here's Torshin with Tom Delay and other Republicans:


FUN FUCKED UPDATE!

Alexander Torshin was a Deputy Governor of the Bank of Russia. He's 65, and the official retirement age is 60. Anyway, the BoR issued a one sentence statement on Nov 30th that Torshin has retired. No word from Torshin on his future plans.

More fun facts:
Not many Russian men make it to the retirement age!

[Captain Blood]

Originally Posted by Lups

Oh I wish!

Nah, I have four, plus the stolen ones (fine, I volunteer for a shelter for abused women as a babysitter so the kids from bad families can experience a normal one. I promise you I'm extremely dull in real life, completely capable of not losing a kid or two!). Mom traumas, episode 2000 and nine, basically the ssott only knows about my girls. They are the nut ones, the boys are normal, well, almost.

The eldest is a member here, one of you actually answered her back when she was bitching about the poor traffic reading skills of the bmw drivers years ago. The rest just reads this forum at times to learn English.

11, 10, 8 and 6, a tight group but all of them are ego slayers.

1 at a time? Weak.......

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Lups

Oh I wish!

Nah, I have four, plus the stolen ones (fine, I volunteer for a shelter for abused women as a babysitter so the kids from bad families can experience a normal one. I promise you I'm extremely dull in real life, completely capable of not losing a kid or two!). Mom traumas, episode 2000 and nine, basically the ssott only knows about my girls. They are the nut ones, the boys are normal, well, almost.

The eldest is a member here, one of you actually answered her back when she was bitching about the poor traffic reading skills of the bmw drivers years ago. The rest just reads this forum at times to learn English.

11, 10, 8 and 6, a tight group but all of them are ego slayers.

Holy shit! Maybe you should've gotten a TV to distract you and your husband from each other.