F80 pulling to the right

Mandi90TT · 09-03-2014, 10:15 AM

Just a note: this will throw off your TPMS sensors. They will report the wrong wheel. Not a huge issue, just a comment.

Wei718 · 09-03-2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

Just a note: this will throw off your TPMS sensors. They will report the wrong wheel. Not a huge issue, just a comment.

Good thing with BMW is you can reset the tpms sensors and it'll register the correct values

Mandi90TT · 09-03-2014, 11:09 AM

Well then, good!

dhoggm3 · 09-03-2014, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

Just a note: this will throw off your TPMS sensors. They will report the wrong wheel. Not a huge issue, just a comment.

Yes, it told me I had a flat, so I reset them and now everything seems as it should be.

brian1225 · 09-04-2014, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dhoggm3

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Originally Posted by Milban

I've been running auto repair shops for too many years. When a car pulls left or right, and the alignment specs are good, and the tires pressures match, it's usually a "radial tire pull". The way to troubleshoot it, is to switch the front tires left to right, and see if it has an effect. If the tires have a directional rotation, switch them front to rear (if they're all the same size). The results usually bring a smile.

Ding ding ding ding! FIXED!!

My car would be in a ditch within 5 seconds before this fix. These cars are so high-tech that it never occurred to me (or the dealer) to try a decades-old technique as simple as this one. Thank you, Milban. I test drove the car after the swap and took both hands off the wheel, and BAM! It tracks true. I'm SO HAPPY that this didn't turn into one of those "re-flash the steering software" things that others have reported with e-steering on other makes.

While I was in there, I noticed that the cooling vents on the new M direct the cooling air to swirl through the wheel well. All earlier M's just dumped a blob of air near the dust covers. I'd be interested to find out whether this is to improve cooling, or reduce drag, or reduce debris getting behind those dust shields. BTW the shields are farther from the disks than earlier M's, and irregularly shaped, so much less prone to trapping stones and twigs that make awful screeching noises.

Glad to hear that this worked. I thought the tires were directional... I will have to check when I get home. Does anyone have insight to this for the 19" wheels.

Bryan · 11-06-2014, 06:06 PM

I have this problem also. F80 19" wheels

Anyone have an update? Is your car still pulling or have they found a fix?

The dealer has checked the alignment and swapped the tires but still pulls. They want to replace the front swivel bearing to one that gives the front right wheel -.30 more camber. Part # 31217853640

Current Camber is:
FL -1.20
FR -1.05 with new part -1.35

Any thoughts?

str8nm · 11-07-2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan

I have this problem also. F80 19" wheels

Anyone have an update? Is your car still pulling or have they found a fix?

The dealer has checked the alignment and swapped the tires but still pulls. They want to replace the front swivel bearing to one that gives the front right wheel -.30 more camber. Part # 31217853640

Current Camber is:
FL -1.20
FR -1.05 with new part -1.35

Any thoughts?

These cars are designed to pull to the right to avoid head on collisions. My 335is is the same.

Bryan · 11-07-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by str8nm

These cars are designed to pull to the right to avoid head on collisions. My 335is is the same.

My 335i with sport pkg drove perfectly straight.

YMB-M3-J2 · 11-07-2014, 04:41 PM

Try many different roads. That's what I do when I think it's off

Drizz · 11-08-2014, 09:16 AM

Maybe BMW sets the spring rate on the driver side a bit different for US-spec cars to account for fat-ass Americans. So if you're actually a normal weight the car pulls right.

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shivaswrath · 11-08-2014, 09:28 AM

I think others were
Complaining about the alignment, might be a factory related issue.

A267839885568 · 11-08-2014, 10:01 AM

Mine definitely pulls to the right as well

audihere · 11-08-2014, 11:33 AM

A while back I realized that most roads are not flat. If you roll a marble in a straight line on the right hand side of a road that is slightly sloped downward from the middle on both sides, the marble will pull to the right due to gravity. I think it goes same for cars. Only way to test is on perfectly flat pavement which is harder to find than you'd think since most roads have a slight slope to them for drainage or whatever. Just my 2 cents.

Chris

nujabes24 · 11-08-2014, 11:56 AM

Man i just got mine two days ago and it pulls to the right. It sometimes feel like im trying to fight it, what the hell!!!!!

kiloil · 11-09-2014, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nujabes24

Man i just got mine two days ago and it pulls to the right. It sometimes feel like im trying to fight it, what the hell!!!!!

Mine is the same way.

MWcoupe · 12-04-2014, 06:47 PM

Same here, only issue I'm really having so far. Going to swap front tires and see if that works

minn19 · 12-04-2014, 09:52 PM

Add mine to the list. Dealer is going to check it out at my break in service.

MWcoupe · 12-08-2014, 09:11 PM

+1 over here! Any got dealer to fix this issue?

M3.2.M4 · 12-08-2014, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by audihere

A while back I realized that most roads are not flat. If you roll a marble in a straight line on the right hand side of a road that is slightly sloped downward from the middle on both sides, the marble will pull to the right due to gravity. I think it goes same for cars. Only way to test is on perfectly flat pavement which is harder to find than you'd think since most roads have a slight slope to them for drainage or whatever. Just my 2 cents.

Chris

I agree. Tested on two lane country road and it did go to the right. Tested again same road left lane and it went to the left. Seemed to notice it more the faster I drove. On then track...straight line.

Tonymiabmw · 12-08-2014, 09:27 PM

Mine pulls hard right to, suspect radial drag though gonna swap tires. Should do the trick.

Lessthanzero · 12-08-2014, 10:08 PM

M3 on 18s. No pull so far.

Wei718 · 12-08-2014, 10:19 PM

Wow, more and more people are coming forward on this issue. I hope BMW will do something about it as it's bugging the crap out of me.

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11-06-2014, 06:06 PM	#72
Bryan New Member 0 Rep 13 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW M3 [0.00] 2008 335i (sold) [0.00]	I have this problem also. F80 19" wheels Anyone have an update? Is your car still pulling or have they found a fix? The dealer has checked the alignment and swapped the tires but still pulls. They want to replace the front swivel bearing to one that gives the front right wheel -.30 more camber. Part # 31217853640 Current Camber is: FL -1.20 FR -1.05 with new part -1.35 Any thoughts?
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audihere Second Lieutenant 60 Rep 242 Posts Drives: F80 M3 and Clown Shoe Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	A while back I realized that most roads are not flat. If you roll a marble in a straight line on the right hand side of a road that is slightly sloped downward from the middle on both sides, the marble will pull to the right due to gravity. I think it goes same for cars. Only way to test is on perfectly flat pavement which is harder to find than you'd think since most roads have a slight slope to them for drainage or whatever. Just my 2 cents. Chris
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nujabes24 Forever Rest In Beats 73 Rep 528 Posts Drives: 2014 MW M4 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: nj iTrader: (1)	Man i just got mine two days ago and it pulls to the right. It sometimes feel like im trying to fight it, what the hell!!!!!
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12-04-2014, 06:47 PM	#82
MWcoupe 24k GOLD 148 Rep 1,453 Posts Drives: Mineral White M4 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: BROOKLYN NY iTrader: (0)	Same here, only issue I'm really having so far. Going to swap front tires and see if that works
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Tonymiabmw Colonel 552 Rep 2,633 Posts Drives: Nardo F90 M5 on order Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: In Transit iTrader: (1)	Mine pulls hard right to, suspect radial drag though gonna swap tires. Should do the trick.
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