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      12-29-2019, 10:25 PM   #89
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This is a gr8 write up.
Here is the link for the cheaper fix that put max psi out the game


https://www.bm3tuning.com/m3m4m2-comp/insane-crankhub
Price notwithstanding, is there a benefit between one-piece vs two-piece?
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Does anyone have the design files for these if I want to machine my own? I think I read somewhere they were released to the public?
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What's the cost for this? Any failures yet?
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Does anyone have the design files for these if I want to machine my own? I think I read somewhere they were released to the public?
Ssr performance has taken this over. Part is still made at same machine shop with same materials
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Does anyone have the design files for these if I want to machine my own? I think I read somewhere they were released to the public?
Nope. No one other than the manufacturing facility has the design files for these.

I don’t see why they would ever be released.

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      01-01-2020, 10:12 PM   #94
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Nope. No one other than the manufacturing facility has the design files for these.

I don’t see why they would ever be released.

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Someone mentioned the guy that originally designed the product went bunk and gave up the designs to someone else because it was too expensive to operate.
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Does anyone have the design files for these if I want to machine my own? I think I read somewhere they were released to the public?
Nope. No one other than the manufacturing facility has the design files for these.

I don’t see why they would ever be released.

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https://www.bm3tuning.com/m3m4m2-comp/insane-crankhub
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What is the ETA for these to be back in stock?
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I hope you realize Insane Performance is a knock off of MaxPSI. Or are you implying that anyone can have their own CAD files if they take the time to 3D scan an existing product?
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I hope you realize Insane Performance is a knock off of MaxPSI. Or are you implying that anyone can have their own CAD files if they take the time to 3D scan an existing product?
I hope you realize its a crank hub fix without the M tax / rape

My point is to spread the word and stop people from thinking any ONE company matters.
The market will always provide if theres demand.
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      01-03-2020, 02:14 AM   #99
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I hope you realize its a crank hub fix without the M tax / rape

My point is to spread the word and stop people from thinking any ONE company matters.
The market will always provide if theres demand.
Exactly,
I was going to buy one and scan at work and release a design file or something so anyone can make their own. I don't see this costing more than $500 to make at a reputable machine shop. Surely not $1600 even with overhead. Some of these things are ridiculously priced and its not because of "low volume" its just insane margins.
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      01-03-2020, 07:46 AM   #100
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It seems to me this happens mostly on tuned automatic transmission S55s after revving into red line or doing an aggressive downshift. This issue appears to be far less likely with manual transmission owners that don't go deep in the red and know how to rev-match. I would feel safe with the 550 crank horsepower from BM3 stage 1 93 octane. Do you really need more power than that? Even stock, the car is a monster. I feel people get too excited about E85 tunes
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What is the ETA for these to be back in stock?
I will have them and be shipping them out within the next 3-4 days sir!

Only a few more left that are still available in this coming batch. Estimated 4-6 week delay for more once this batch is sold.

Orders can be placed on our website:
https://www.ssrperformance.com/produ...440f5390&_ss=r

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I hope you realize its a crank hub fix without the M tax / rape

My point is to spread the word and stop people from thinking any ONE company matters.
The market will always provide if theres demand.
Exactly,
I was going to buy one and scan at work and release a design file or something so anyone can make their own. I don't see this costing more than $500 to make at a reputable machine shop. Surely not $1600 even with overhead. Some of these things are ridiculously priced and its not because of "low volume" its just insane margins.
Maybe I'm missing the context but essentially you are copying someone else's design who has put a level of testing, time and R&D into it and saying you could do it cheaper with zero profit. Stating the obvious, no shit.

In AU anyway I would be hard pressed to find a machine shop to mill a one off for 500. Last time I sourced a machine shop to machine a RC wing bed to do some vacuuming forming it was about 4K albeit it was a bigger item.

If you were going to create your own CAD/GCODE files wouldn't you scan the oem and add what ever changes you need to that. At least you are not compounding any changes and will be the truest representation of the tooth profiling and dimensions.

I do agree 1600 is a on the high side especially for international buyers like myself with shitty exchange rates. I do however think somewhere between the $800-$1000 USD mark is acceptable. 500 would be so much better though

EDIT: SSR/MaxPSI offering is 1200 so not far off my high water mark. But the conversion rate for me is the killer.
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I will have them and be shipping them out within the next 3-4 days sir!

Only a few more left that are still available in this coming batch. Estimated 4-6 week delay for more once this batch is sold.

Orders can be placed on our website:
https://www.ssrperformance.com/produ...440f5390&_ss=r

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Comes with install kit?
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      01-03-2020, 08:09 PM   #104
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Comes with install kit?
Saw your email. Sent you an email with pricing for the crank hub kit with install kit as well. Will get it together as soon as it's paid.

Thanks!

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Maybe I'm missing the context but essentially you are copying someone else's design who has put a level of testing, time and R&D into it and saying you could do it cheaper with zero profit. Stating the obvious, no shit.

In AU anyway I would be hard pressed to find a machine shop to mill a one off for 500. Last time I sourced a machine shop to machine a RC wing bed to do some vacuuming forming it was about 4K albeit it was a bigger item.

If you were going to create your own CAD/GCODE files wouldn't you scan the oem and add what ever changes you need to that. At least you are not compounding any changes and will be the truest representation of the tooth profiling and dimensions.

I do agree 1600 is a on the high side especially for international buyers like myself with shitty exchange rates. I do however think somewhere between the $800-$1000 USD mark is acceptable. 500 would be so much better though

EDIT: SSR/MaxPSI offering is 1200 so not far off my high water mark. But the conversion rate for me is the killer.

Even if I were to do all this, close to no one would do it themselves. I just so happen to be in the sheet metal and fabrication industry so I wanted to do it myself out of fun. Even with an MOQ of 5 I know I can get this pricing substantially lower and still have 100% margins beating the competition. Unfortunately thats life for the our market, I 3d printed my own intake for my n55 back in the day via a protolabs order, I just like to tinker.
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All 38 orders shipped out and still got some leftover! Make sure to order yours today!

https://www.ssrperformance.com/produ...607380cd&_ss=r

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how insane performance crank hub compare to max psi ?
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Thanks Shah! Awesome shop btw, lots of drool worthy hardware!
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Awesome! Looking forward to getting it.
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You are most welcome sir!! Thank you so much for stopping by and picking yours up. Always a pleasure.

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