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View Poll Results: S65 option or S55 standart ? | |||
YES ... I would choose the S65 if an option at this price would be availiable |
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93 | 45.81% |
NO ... I would choose the standart S55 engine |
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110 | 54.19% |
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06-24-2014, 11:34 AM | #683 | |||||
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I'll start with the literal: you get "the S65 experience" from "the S65", not a 4cyl.
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Besides, that's your thought, not my statement. It would be crazy to say two 3L turbo motors from the same manufacturer, where one is admittedly based on the other, with the exact same displacement, available in the same car series, are similar. They're not interchangeable; the N55 would need at least a tune and a larger radiator. Quote:
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2 x N54 -> 1 x N55 -> 1 x S55-> 1 x B58
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And until that day comes (in a few years from now), you can continue with your ignorant posts and ignore all the reviews and otherwise that rebuke your stance. |
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06-24-2014, 11:01 PM | #688 | |
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Turbocharged 4 cyls easily rev to 8,000 RPM, doesn't make then anymore special IMHO. |
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Who was the first company to put titanium con rods in a road going, mass produced car? Honda. Who was the first company to use carbon fiber to as cylinder wall sleeves, again in a road going mass producation car? Honda. Comparing a BMW motor to those of Honda is a compliment to BMW, not the other way around. |
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who built Ayrton Senna's F1 motors? who co developed a car with an F1 driver? (NSX) who has not built a single turbod production motor yet minus 1 that they got rid of but instead has preferred high revving NA motors? And this guy is over here fanboying his S65 to the death.
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2. Try re-reading my comment, and rather than ignore that I clearly meant cars they produce today (note the word ACHIEVES, as in NOW), include that part of my meaning in your calculus and come back with all the road going V8s they produce that pull it off. Now put that number in the numerator, and all the other engines they produce in the denominator and post the fraction. GOOSE EGG Can we stop with the Honda crap now?
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... a glorious V8 that screamed and hollered as the revs rose and then howled in an orgy of what sounded like BDSM ecstasy as it neared the red line.
Well, you can forget all that. The new car is fitted with a turbocharged straight six. Turbocharging? In an M car? That’s like putting gravy on an ice cream. - Jeremy Clarkson, discussing the S65 and then S55 M3 engines. |
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ASAP and Ritz 24: Great points about Honda. Too bad the AP1 had a whopping 153 lb ft of torque. Hence the AP2, which itself was no torque monster at 163 lb ft, I believe. If the greatest S65 criticism is low torque, surely the same applies to Honda N/A motors too.
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will a S55 need future valve adjustment like the S54? One thing I love about my S65 is that it doesn't need valve adjustment as mileages get accumulated.
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Actually the S55 has roller bearings throughout the valvetrain/valvetronic mechanism which should be low friction, and it uses hydraulic lifters for valve clearance - auto adjustment. Keep your oil clean. That part is fairly low maintenance; much needed since the rest of the engine will require a close eye. Highly pressurized turbo motors that also run hot are inherently more "trouble" as the miles rack up. Go in with yours eyes open.
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According to this thread:
http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1015603 ... the old S65 4.0ltr.V8 is indeed al little bit lighter than the new S55 3.0ltr.I6TT - 202kg vs. 205kg !!! ![]() Curious that BMW quotes an wrong weight for the S65 to bring the new engine below the weight of the old engine ... 202kg is for years now the official (BMW) weight of the S65 !? ![]() |
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... a glorious V8 that screamed and hollered as the revs rose and then howled in an orgy of what sounded like BDSM ecstasy as it neared the red line.
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Yep it's heavier funny how an e92 got walled the other day but it sure sounded good on the toll road (Sunday morning 630 am not a soul in sight) and we were headed to a cars and coffee.
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