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      11-13-2023, 11:30 AM   #1
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Sold my f80 to build a 991.2

I really liked my time with BMW i loved the f80 platform. About two years ago i parted out my f80 build and sold the car i knew i could get what i paid for the car two years prior selling back to carmax plus all the money from the aftermarket parts. This was still peak Covid pricing i knew the market was high on both sides of selling and buying. I also knew it wouldn’t last forever. I shopped for 911T’S and GTS but there wasn’t a lot of inventory at the time and Porsche was still backlogged for 992. I found a gate grey 991 S down in socal. I picked it up CPO from Porsche. I will say there are a few downsides to moving to 911 the owners are kinda lame they don’t track there’s cars they don’t like modding and everything is about spec. My 991 is an enthusiast spec it almost doesn’t even matter if you plan on modding the car. My 991 came with rear axle steering, sport Chrono sport pasm and 18 ways, PTV-LSD. I kinda wanted to keep it stock for a bit but i couldn’t help my self.
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I took the car to one more level and swapped all the arms for adjustable arms and i got a set of BBS E88’s. The car is on JRZ rs2 coilovers with elephant racing arms and bushings. I did GTS/sport design aero front and rear. Along with the aero coding. It has a full Sharkwerks exhaust along with 200 cell soul cats.
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Thanks for sharing! 911 is the only answer after an F80.
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Thanks for sharing! 911 is the only answer after an F80.
Why is that though? Seems like most people all carry the same view which to me is bizarre. I just don't get it.

Switch to completely different car, brand, and style for what?
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Why is that though? Seems like most people all carry the same view which to me is bizarre. I just don't get it.

Switch to completely different car, brand, and style for what?
Because it’s a better drivers car.
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Why is that though? Seems like most people all carry the same view which to me is bizarre. I just don't get it.

Switch to completely different car, brand, and style for what?
Are there really any other cars that you can still daily drive and still take to the track reliably? A new M3/M4 would fit the bill, but I would never purchase a G8X.

There's a joke that every BMW owner's dream car is a 911. Porsche is really the only brand that still caters to driving enthusiasts these days.
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Why is that though? Seems like most people all carry the same view which to me is bizarre. I just don't get it.

Switch to completely different car, brand, and style for what?
Because it is the next aspirational car in the food chain when you are looking to upgrade. Many started with something like a Honda/VW. Then with a bit larger budget you can move to something like a 340i. Again moving up the ranks you increase your budget and now start getting into M cars. After that, Porsche is the next common step for when you can spend more $ on a performance vehicle.
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Here’s my F80, but F8X to 991.2 I’d say is nice upgrade in almost measurable way. I have pretty extensive track experience with both. I do think Porsche has went up market on 911 know matter what version of the car it will be harder to get. BMW’s approach now is youth and appealing to younger demographic. Porsche now comes with an ADM no matter what 911 your buying. I would have bought another bmw but i don’t agree with the design language.
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I still have both and enjoy driving the M3 and mostly looking at it. Mine is also Yas Marina.

991.2 is several steps up in handling capability, steering feel, chassis control etc. You sit a lot lower in the car and center of gravity is much lower. One is born as a sports car, the other one is born as a pedestrian sedan that engineers made into a sporty car.

M3 is much cheaper to run though from a maintenance standpoint. If you thought M tax is bad, just wait to see the Porsche tax / labor rates.
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      11-13-2023, 09:07 PM   #12
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I inherited one of the 57 original wide body 993 GT2’s and used it as a daily driver for a while, did approx 80,000 miles in it driving (very aggressively) around the mountains and lochs of Scotland and the hills and lakes of Northern England.

Doubt I will ever get another Porsche, as I consider the brand “completed” from a driver’s perspective.

It was a great car, I drove the living daylights out of it, as the car wanted, then once cured of grief, I sold it. It had enormous split rims that leaked constantly and the battery would only last 6 months. But more grip than God and 0-62mph in 3.5 seconds, pure insanity for a car built 25 years ago.

I believe it’s in New Zealand now.
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Why not just join a Porsche forum? It’s obviously an open forum here and you’re clearly free to post whatever you want, but I’m genuinely curious to know why not start this thread at Rennlist. Frankly, you could literally copy/paste and it’d fit perfectly lol.

Just as a caveat, my question/comment isn’t intended as sarcasm, to berate, or to offend - just wondering and figured it couldn’t hurt to ask.
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You have any left over parts you want to sell from the f80?
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Thanks for all the replies. I guess I'm the weird one 😂😂

This probably means nothing but I also have a modified 17 Porsche Macan Turbo so I'm not "hating" on Porsche or anything. Was genuinely curious.
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Why not just join a Porsche forum? It’s obviously an open forum here and you’re clearly free to post whatever you want, but I’m genuinely curious to know why not start this thread at Rennlist. Frankly, you could literally copy/paste and it’d fit perfectly lol.

Just as a caveat, my question/comment isn’t intended as sarcasm, to berate, or to offend - just wondering and figured it couldn’t hurt to ask.
He’s just sharing his experience. There have been plenty of people who have done it previously on the forum. I value his post. But I agree with you, he should also post on rennlist.
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Why not just join a Porsche forum? It’s obviously an open forum here and you’re clearly free to post whatever you want, but I’m genuinely curious to know why not start this thread at Rennlist. Frankly, you could literally copy/paste and it’d fit perfectly lol.

Just as a caveat, my question/comment isn’t intended as sarcasm, to berate, or to offend - just wondering and figured it couldn’t hurt to ask.
I’ve been on rennlist since owning the car i have a build thread but rennlist is pretty sparse in terms of people who wrench on there own cars and who mod the car. 991.2 is still some what of an expensive car and people aren’t in to them yet. Except for the GT cars. I get a lot of emails still asking about my F80’s setup how did do xyz and z or are these parts available to buy still made me want to make this thread. I also think its good to explain to the bmw community that Porsche is a different experience and this is somewhat of the comparison.
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Why is that though? Seems like most people all carry the same view which to me is bizarre. I just don't get it.

Switch to completely different car, brand, and style for what?
Honestly I would've stayed with BMW if they didn't make such a travesty out of the G8x.

But instead I decided it was time to upgrade as well.
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Honestly I would've stayed with BMW if they didn't make such a travesty out of the G8x.

But instead I decided it was time to upgrade as well.
Lots of people in this boat.
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Because it is the next aspirational car in the food chain when you are looking to upgrade. Many started with something like a Honda/VW. Then with a bit larger budget you can move to something like a 340i. Again moving up the ranks you increase your budget and now start getting into M cars. After that, Porsche is the next common step for when you can spend more $ on a performance vehicle.
agree. f80's handle so well even over the limit in a slide & it gives you time to react. but yes you nailed it. OP wrenches on his car and is just sharing his honest experience's unlike the armchair critics asking why doesn't he just join another forum lol.
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I’ve been on rennlist since owning the car i have a build thread but rennlist is pretty sparse in terms of people who wrench on there own cars and who mod the car. 991.2 is still some what of an expensive car and people aren’t in to them yet. Except for the GT cars. I get a lot of emails still asking about my F80’s setup how did do xyz and z or are these parts available to buy still made me want to make this thread. I also think its good to explain to the bmw community that Porsche is a different experience and this is somewhat of the comparison.
Congrats on your 991.2! I appreciate reading about your journey from an M3 to a 911. Many of us moved from an F8x M3/4 to a 991.x or 992. I went from a 2015 F80 M3 to a 992 Carrera S. I kept my M3 for two more years and just recently traded it in for an X3 M40i which I use to carry my road and mtn bikes. i still daily my 992 all the time.

And yeah, rennlist can be a bit of a downer when it comes to mods, though I got the impression there were many more people modding and working on their 991s than 992s. It can get a bit annoying to read about people freaking out when you install an ECU tune or spacers or install a lip spoiler on a Porsche... as if the car is going to all of a sudden turn into an aerodynamic wreck an become ariborne once you hit 80 mph or something. But there are also many enthusiasts who mod the heck out of their cars, though not nearly as many as here in the BMW forums.

BTW, great choice in rims on both cars! I recently bought some custom polished BBS FI-Rs for my Porsche but I'm really thinking about getting some mesh rims - either some E88s or HRE 300 classics. Here's mine. Keep sharing your mods here and in Rennlist!
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Congrats on your 991.2! I appreciate reading about your journey from an M3 to a 911. Many of us moved from an F8x M3/4 to a 991.x or 992. I went from a 2015 F80 M3 to a 992 Carrera S. I kept my M3 for two more years and just recently traded it in for an X3 M40i which I use to carry my road and mtn bikes. i still daily my 992 all the time.

And yeah, rennlist can be a bit of a downer when it comes to mods, though I got the impression there were many more people modding and working on their 991s than 992s. It can get a bit annoying to read about people freaking out when you install an ECU tune or spacers or install a lip spoiler on a Porsche... as if the car is going to all of a sudden turn into an aerodynamic wreck an become ariborne once you hit 80 mph or something. But there are also many enthusiasts who mod the heck out of their cars, though not nearly as many as here in the BMW forums.

BTW, great choice in rims on both cars! I recently bought some custom polished BBS FI-Rs for my Porsche but I'm really thinking about getting some mesh rims - either some E88s or HRE 300 classics. Here's mine. Keep sharing your mods here and in Rennlist!
Beautiful car and yeah that sums up Rennlist. i don’t wanna keep this thread going it is a bmw forum after all i thought i’d drop a little bit of knowledge and comparison between the two platforms. Enjoy your cars and motorsports!
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