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      01-22-2021, 01:32 PM   #2245
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Personally, I cannot stand the staggered wheel sizes F/R on the car. Simply can't unsee and it just looks goofy on an already goofy looking vehicle.

Also while interior is nice... the whole screens for everything trend is no bueno. F8x had it right with a nice combo of digital and analog.
It annoys me so much how BMW consistently considers themselves pioneers of automotive tech yet can't give us some damn custom gauges. The new gauge cluster is absolutely horrid and illegible in all settings, and the tachometer is an embarrassment. Its almost as if everyone they are hiring from tech, to design and marketing does not actually care about driving!
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For my part, I am quite happy that ACC is optional. I could care less for the feature I am glad not to have to carry the extra weight and unsightly sensor/radar on the front facia.

What sucks is being forced into a package to order ACC, where you are stuck ordering other items you don't necessarily want.
Agreed, for certain cars, I do not want it:
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They should just untether it to expensive packages.
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      01-22-2021, 04:34 PM   #2247
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It annoys me so much how BMW consistently considers themselves pioneers of automotive tech yet can't give us some damn custom gauges. The new gauge cluster is absolutely horrid and illegible in all settings, and the tachometer is an embarrassment. Its almost as if everyone they are hiring from tech, to design and marketing does not actually care about driving!
This is probably another contributing factor to why Biermann left. He saw the writing on the wall.
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It annoys me so much how BMW consistently considers themselves pioneers of automotive tech yet can't give us some damn custom gauges. The new gauge cluster is absolutely horrid and illegible in all settings, and the tachometer is an embarrassment. Its almost as if everyone they are hiring from tech, to design and marketing does not actually care about driving!
This is probably another contributing factor to why Biermann left. He saw the writing on the wall.
And look at what he is now accomplishing with Hyundai.
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And look at what he is now accomplishing with Hyundai.
Here's the pudding

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-ne...-ar190317.html
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Not surprising at all, Kia is making some great products. Meanwhile at BMW...

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Not surprising at all, Kia is making some great products. Meanwhile at BMW...

Pretty Good Josh!
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Since BMW doesn't seem to be using it anymore, maybe Kia can use the Hoffmeister kink.
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The fanboism of some members on the G8X is quite mesmerizing, they are totally infatuated and can see no wrong with car, while they constantly bash the F8X in the process. They drink the coolaid by the firehose. No amount of rational can bring objectivity to the discussion. I still have fun overthere, politely poking them until they are proven wrong, then they either shut up or change the topic in typical fanboi fashion .
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I’m quite certain that most of you may have already seen this, but even Chip Foose Is getting in on the action of redesigning the front end. Even he gets it!!
Have always enjoyed his various renderings of vehicles that he has customized. It may have been a much more acceptable design, but It just doesn’t speak to me. However, I do believe it is better than what BMW gave us.
I like what he says @ the 7:56 mark....” They followed a trend by just doing this giant grille.”

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Went to the dealer today to drop off my father's car and got a look at this beauty. This may truly be the last great M car that BMW produces.
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Went to the dealer today to drop off my father's car and got a look at this beauty. This may truly be the last great M car that BMW produces.
A beauty and a proper M car.
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Went to the dealer today to drop off my father's car and got a look at this beauty. This may truly be the last great M car that BMW produces.
A beauty and a proper M car.
Agree, although if I ever did get one, I'd spec Alpine White with Gold Rims.
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I'm convinced that the M2 is the re-incarnation of the E46 M3 in every possible way
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I'm convinced that the M2 is the re-incarnation of the E46 M3 in every possible way
I would love to test drive an M2cs on track. I wonder why BMW did not simply put the M4cs tune in the M2cs though... Maybe it would have made it too fast .
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I'm convinced that the M2 is the re-incarnation of the E46 M3 in every possible way
Jason Cammisa had a lot of great things to say, which is pretty rare for him to do when it comes to modern BMW's. Really great video showcasing why the M2 really is just an excellent car.

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I would love to test drive an M2cs on track. I wonder why BMW did not simply put the M4cs tune in the M2cs though... Maybe it would have made it too fast .
Hahah probably didn't want to hurt M3/4 owners feelings.
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Went to the dealer today to drop off my father's car and got a look at this beauty. This may truly be the last great M car that BMW produces.
Agreed, they are beautiful, but I still don't know why BMW has such large tire/fender gaps. BMW, put MPHAS on the CS line and call it a day.

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Agree, although if I ever did get one, I'd spec Alpine White with Gold Rims.
Yesss that looks great in that combo . Gold wheels surprisingly work on more colours than I initially thought they would, black and gold also springs to mind.
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Went to the dealer today to drop off my father's car and got a look at this beauty. This may truly be the last great M car that BMW produces.
I'm hoping there will be one available at the end of the year when time comes to get rid of the F80. Maybe I can take over a well negotiated lease or get a used one? Better yet one that's been sitting on the lot for a few months. Lol yeah right. I don't think these will sit around like the M3/4 CS's.
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Went to the dealer today to drop off my father's car and got a look at this beauty. This may truly be the last great M car that BMW produces.
Yes Sir!! My dealer just received their first allocation. Sales advisor called me, but when I got there it still hadn't been unwrapped. They have one more that is on the way!
Truly the last great ///M car.
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Jason Cammisa had a lot of great things to say, which is pretty rare for him to do when it comes to modern BMW's. Really great video showcasing why the M2 really is just an excellent car.

I saw that vid earlier and it is so well done, one of the best productions in a long time, hopefully Hagerty can continue this.

The MKIV looks so incredible - now almost 30yrs since it first came out.
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