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      06-24-2019, 02:07 PM   #1
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▀▄ eas | 800whp Sleeper M3 - Pure S2+ Turbo content

Let's keep things short and get straight to business, here's the latest project to come off the dyno. Full E85 w/ methanol making 800whp at the wheels.

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Pure Turbos Stage 2+ turbos
Bootmod3/JordanTuned custom E85 flash tune
Snow Performance Methanol Kit
BP Engineering Titanium Charge Pipes
AWE Exhaust
VRSF Catless Downpipes
BMC Filters (stock intakes)
VTT SplineLock Crank Hub/Crank Bolt Capture





Enjoy!
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      06-24-2019, 02:10 PM   #2
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Those curves look proper...high hp right to redline
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What a beast
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No Clutch Upgrade with all that Power?
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      06-24-2019, 03:47 PM   #6
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I drove in the canyons with him this past weekend! His car sounds like a beast!
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      06-24-2019, 03:57 PM   #7
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sheesh! nice build fellas!
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      06-24-2019, 06:17 PM   #8
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Love that torque curve too, Congrats !!

Any dangers of corrosion due to constantly having the car filled with pure e85?
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      06-24-2019, 06:32 PM   #9
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like to see how long the stock internals can handle an additional 400 hp basically?? amazing...go mutilate some Nissan gtr please
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like to see how long the stock internals can handle an additional 400 hp basically?? amazing...go mutilate some Nissan gtr please
Kratos has been running beta test cars for over year on 812+whp stock internals with crank hub no issues I'm told. They said 850 whp is very doable on stock internals. Main thing is keeping torque at 650 wtq which is what I see many people doing now thanks to kratos and their research and development process.

This setup is just awesome and I'm more impressed with this platform more then ever.
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Kratos has been running beta test cars for over year on 812+whp stock internals with crank hub no issues I'm told. They said 850 whp is very doable on stock internals. Main thing is keeping torque at 650 wtq which is what I see many people doing now thanks to kratos and their research and development process.

This setup is just awesome and I'm more impressed with this platform more then ever.

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High boost with stock engine:

We have seen many damaged engines as result of making too much power with a stock engine. While modern engines are very reliable, it is easy to add large turbochargers and water methanol injection and break the engine. On the F8X, maximum safe power on a stock engine is 600 LB/FT flywheel torque. CarBahn makes high performance engines designed to handle more power. More information is available on this web site.
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800whp with OEM intake and OEM intercooler. Nice.
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800whp with OEM intake and OEM intercooler. Nice.
Marketing makes us spend money badly
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Awesome numbers! I'm curious as to what the bottleneck is around 6500 that allows the power to drop off. Looks similar, directionally, to a stock car in that it doesn't keep building power until 7k+. I'm assuming the turbos don't run out of steam there which is what I thought the bottleneck was. Thanks.
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Man!!!... look how long the torque held on for!!!

Thatís what Iím talking about!!!!
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Love that torque curve too, Congrats !!

Any dangers of corrosion due to constantly having the car filled with pure e85?
Different maps were made for both daily driving on 91/100 octane as well as E85.

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800whp with OEM intake and OEM intercooler. Nice.
Good eye, was hoping someone would notice this. People really underestimate the true capabilities of this platform in stock form, thanks to heavy marketing.

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No Clutch Upgrade with all that Power?
Clutches are fine at the moment, since there is little traction and the car doesn't see a dragstrip. Once sticker tires get installed, we'll likely be installing a set of Dodsons in the near future.
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is the meth for use with E10 fuel?

or is it used with E85 to provide fuel? I thought E85 by itself allows max amount of advance needed.

I want to do turbos and I use full E85 fuel. do I need a PI kit?
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Impressive stuff! Have you noticed any significant difference between the PS2+ and GC+ turbos?
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Impressive stuff! Have you noticed any significant difference between the PS2+ and GC+ turbos?
Very interesting question since the Vargas are super cheap. You can get them for 7k installed, tune and crank hub fix.
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Impressive stuff! Have you noticed any significant difference between the PS2+ and GC+ turbos?
We've had fantastic results with both companies. Lots of variables at play depending on fueling, but both are up to the task.

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is the meth for use with E10 fuel?

or is it used with E85 to provide fuel? I thought E85 by itself allows max amount of advance needed.

I want to do turbos and I use full E85 fuel. do I need a PI kit?
Stock fuel system starts maxing out just shy of 650whp on E85, you'll need PI or methanol for additional fueling at higher levels. PI requires essentially zero maintenance, but comes in at a higher initial cost.

Give me a call and we'll get you set up.
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