Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by F8SEVEN

Gotcha...I was thinking for second owner perspective mostly, I think a lot of Porsche drivers like it, especially the ones that do the road trip rally things...but it could just be me thinking wrong.

Yeah I can see that. Ideally, this will be my last car. I'll pay it off and be payment free. That's my next dream.

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Yeah I can see that. Ideally, this will be my last car. I'll pay it off and be payment free. That's my next dream.

That's a good goal! I've thought about the same thing as 911s go forever and even go up in value with high miles. My only concern is California will ban gasoline altogether at some point.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by F8SEVEN

That's a good goal! I've thought about the same thing as 911s go forever and even go up in value with high miles. My only concern is California will ban gasoline altogether at some point.

This state will talk that rhetoric, but they'll never be able to completely ban them. The EV take rate is relatively low overall and low income people/families (...and all of our illegal immigrants) won't find EV's accessible to them. They'd also have to grandfather in everybody who owns gasoline automobiles, and like the firearms market (...and the response to proposed legislation), that'll just make people go out and buy more gasoline powered cars.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Yeah. No kidding. I'm continually swapping one thing for something else. I'm glad I had/have time. The initial suggestion(s) to ditch the roof didn't sink in until today; seeing the base interior was like......uhhhhh, no. I added an updated build code in my last post.

This is pretty much how Porsche gets you and something I also don't like Porsche for. Screw those Rennlist ppl who says otherwise.

The interior trim thing would need to change unless you are okay with the soft base plastic thing. It is sadly just one of those "Yeah... Porsche" crap. I have complained about it myself but there isn't much you can do. GTS trims and up generally give you leather dashes and what not by default but anything below them don't. You need to option it in... even for a 110k+ car.

My view when it comes to cars like this, is also what I spoke about with my GSM too. It is along the lines of, "I know I can slim down the price of the GT4. It is easy, I absolutely know how to but I also know, this is probably going to be it for me when it comes to my personal car. I won't change again. GT4 RS is tempting but it is also going to be at least 130k MSRP without options... added in options it is going to be above what I am capable of paying (and not to mention into GT3 territory). If I am going to keep it, I prefer just getting everything I want in it, pay a bit more instead of regret not getting it."

When it comes to most Porsches, 911 or 718, I have the view point of not modding the car almost at all. Wheels is about it really if you don't track. They aren't Ms, or AMGs where some modding is kind of needed to bring out the best in the car.

That is why my suggestion has been, if you are able to pay for it, then pay a bit more and do it. Do not have any regrets. I have been hitting myself for not getting ceramics on numerous occasions. That won't happen again on my next car. Even if it is super, SUPER expensive.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Arcades

This is pretty much how Porsche gets you and something I also don't like Porsche for. Screw those Rennlist ppl who says otherwise.

The interior trim thing would need to change unless you are okay with the soft base plastic thing. It is sadly just one of those "Yeah... Porsche" crap. I have complained about it myself but there isn't much you can do. GTS trims and up generally give you leather dashes and what not by default but anything below them don't. You need to option it in... even for a 110k+ car.

My view when it comes to cars like this, is also what I spoke about with my GSM too. It is along the lines of, "I know I can slim down the price of the GT4. It is easy, I absolutely know how to but I also know, this is probably going to be it for me when it comes to my personal car. I won't change again. GT4 RS is tempting but it is also going to be at least 130k MSRP without options... added in options it is going to be above what I am capable of paying (and not to mention into GT3 territory). If I am going to keep it, I prefer just getting everything I want in it, pay a bit more instead of regret not getting it."

When it comes to most Porsches, 911 or 718, I have the view point of not modding the car almost at all. Wheels is about it really if you don't track. They aren't Ms, or AMGs where some modding is kind of needed to bring out the best in the car.

That is why my suggestion has been, if you are able to pay for it, then pay a bit more and do it. Do not have any regrets. I have been hitting myself for not getting ceramics on numerous occasions. That won't happen again on my next car. Even if it is super, SUPER expensive.

Well worded, and I agree. It's better for me to spec this car in a way that will have me having little to no regret(s). I appreciated the suggestion(s) to go to various dealerships to find cars with the options I want(ed) and see them in the real. What I thought I couldn't live without (..e.g...the roof) and what I thought I didn't "need" (...e.g....the full leather dash/doors/etc.) ended up being opposite once I spent two hours in the dealership really dissecting everything. I have become really spoiled by BMW and Porsche refuses to coddle me through this optioning process. Lol!

[Multimodal]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

This state will talk that rhetoric, but they'll never be able to completely ban them.

California will ban ICEs before it repeals Prop 13, which is destroying the state.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Well worded, and I agree. It's better for me to spec this car in a way that will have me having little to no regret(s). I appreciated the suggestion(s) to go to various dealerships to find cars with the options I want(ed) and see them in the real. What I thought I couldn't live without (..e.g...the roof) and what I thought I didn't "need" (...e.g....the full leather dash/doors/etc.) ended up being opposite once I spent two hours in the dealership really dissecting everything. I have become really spoiled by BMW and Porsche refuses to coddle me through this optioning process. Lol!

Yup.

Especially since Porsche cars costs significantly more than a compared BMW most of the time. Enough customers don't... care enough usually but you should know what you are paying for. Especially if you are going to pay 100k+ over the next few years.

The online web builder isn't always accurate, so it is far better to see things in person and have a very good visual instead of going, "Ehhh maybe."

You can google it too, usually a thread on Rennlist will pop up with your answer. That's how I have done it when I cannot see something in person. Like the whole Deviated Leather Stitching. It tells you and sorta shows you but it doesn't give you a good enough visual, at least it doesn't for me. Seeing pictures online or seeing some in person helps a great deal.

[RugbyBro]

Yeah... this is gonna be a no from me. Kind of sounds like a drawn out brown sound... and not the good kind (RIP EVH)

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

California will ban ICEs before it repeals Prop 13, which is destroying the state.

CA politics . The state of bold ideas and no way to pay for them - no action that really matters. Well, I lied, plenty of action when it comes to slapping on another arbitrary tax to fill the endless pit of projects and initiatives that will never see the light of day. I love this place, I truly do, but the way we handle policy truly boggles my mind sometimes.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

Yeah... this is gonna be a no from me. Kind of sounds like a drawn out brown sound... and not the good kind (RIP EVH)

dafaq?

This is just as bad as the silly video Ford threw out for their Mach-E.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

CA politics . The state of bold ideas and no way to pay for them - no action that really matters. Well, I lied, plenty of action when it comes to slapping on another arbitrary tax to fill the endless pit of projects and initiatives that will never see the light of day. I love this place, I truly do, but the way we handle policy truly boggles my mind sometimes.

Agreed! All talk and very little walk. We were supposed to have a bullet train by now. Yeah, we see how that went. The taxation is ridiculous.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Agreed! All talk and very little walk. We were supposed to have a bullet train by now. Yeah, we see how that went. The taxation is ridiculous.

lol.

My gf told me she tried that once. Thought the long hours to get to San Jose was some other reason (she's Korean).

Well guess what, she found out the hard way why it takes so long. I also told her that, I can drive faster than that thing and I'm not even speeding. Er, in the technical sense that 75 isn't speeding.

Seeing that thing roll sloowly down the 10 freeway makes me sad. Compared to the Japanese bullet train. Heck, I take the subway in Taipei over that thing.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Arcades

lol.

My gf told me she tried that once. Thought the long hours to get to San Jose was some other reason (she's Korean).

Well guess what, she found out the hard way why it takes so long. I also told her that, I can drive faster than that thing and I'm not even speeding. Er, in the technical sense that 75 isn't speeding.

Seeing that thing roll sloowly down the 10 freeway makes me sad. Compared to the Japanese bullet train. Heck, I take the subway in Taipei over that thing.

I would rather drive and pay for Fastrak than take that thing. Lol!

[FlyingLow78]

BMW is really pushing the hideous grilles in South Korea.

[therealkenc]

Originally Posted by FlyingLow78

BMW is really pushing the hideous grilles in South Korea.

Lol BMW went as far as to create "Kidney Road".

S. Koreans have a keen sense of aesthetic. I can see why BMW is trying so hard to get them on board. Alas, I think their efforts are likely to be futile... kidney road or not 🤪

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by FlyingLow78

BMW is really pushing the hideous grilles in South Korea.

That color on the M3 looks good.

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

That color on the M3 looks good.

That's about the only positive which isn't saying much

[swagon]

Originally Posted by FlyingLow78

BMW is really pushing the hideous grilles in South Korea.

The G22 with the chrome nostrils, fuck me sideways. Reminds of the lads who retrofit single frame grilles on their old Audis. Literally looks like they just bought the front end off of eBay and glued the shit on at the last minute. It does not look better in person. Nor does the rest of the car.

Kidney Road more like Kidney Stones.



The M3 is lucky they got rid of the bezels around the kidneys and that it sort of, kind of, maybe helps blend them in on darker-coloured cars like the TB above.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

P.S. Why does the Turbo/Turbo S look so much wider than the Carrera S?!?!

Because it is

By 48mm or 1.9". As I posted previously, the Turbo models are the only ones getting the 992 "wide body" for now.

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Because it is

By 48mm or 1.9". As I posted previously, the Turbo models are the only ones getting the 992 "wide body" for now.

I thought I read when the 992 came out that they were all on a wide body platform and there was no narrower body...just not apparently a wider wide body?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Because it is

By 48mm or 1.9". As I posted previously, the Turbo models are the only ones getting the 992 "wide body" for now.

I just didn't expect it to be so visually apparent. The Turbo S is sexy!!!

Originally Posted by F8SEVEN

I thought I read when the 992 came out that they were all on a wide body platform and there was no narrower body...just not apparently a wider wide body?

That's what I thought too, until I saw them next to each other. The Turbo/Turbo S makes the Carrera S look tiny in comparison.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by F8SEVEN

I thought I read when the 992 came out that they were all on a wide body platform and there was no narrower body...just not apparently a wider wide body?

I guess it’s a question of semantics. For me, there’s a standard body and a wide body. More logical to me than a wide body and wider wide body . And traditionally that’s how it has been with the 911, Carrera with a standard body, turbo wide body that eventually gets used on other variants. From what I gather, the 991 was a bit different with three body widths.