Continental ExtremeContact SPORT tire reviews

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by SO17

And compared to the Contact Sport 6 ?

He hasn't a real clue.

[hlothery]

Very well written and informative article. As I approach the end of the life of the 5P's my car came with, there is much to ponder. As cost is not a consideration (luckily for me), I am leaning toward the PS4S. But thanks to all who have contributed with the genuine purpose of furthering the body of knowledge out there for guys like me to consider. I genuinely appreciate it! As to the trolls..........well, there will always be trolls.

[Billj747]

Originally Posted by SO17

And compared to the Contact Sport 6 ?

I just heard back from an engineer at Continental. The old DW had softer sidewalls than the SportContact family, which can vary in stiffness depending on the requirements of the OEM manufacturer (since these are bespoke tires made for certain car models - IN THE US.).

The ExtremeContact Sport is much stiffer than the outgoing DW and will vary compared to the SC6 & 5P depending on the application but will generally be on a similar ballpark to the SC6, 5P & PSS..

The 5P equipped cars ive driven didn't have the steering response of the ECS hence my previous comment but it appears that due to the variances and applications, a 5P can be similar and possibly slightly stiffer than an ECS.

Originally Posted by hlothery

Very well written and informative article. As I approach the end of the life of the 5P's my car came with, there is much to ponder. As cost is not a consideration (luckily for me), I am leaning toward the PS4S. But thanks to all who have contributed with the genuine purpose of furthering the body of knowledge out there for guys like me to consider. I genuinely appreciate it! As to the trolls..........well, there will always be trolls.

Thanks for the comments. I really don't think you could go wrong between ECS, PSS, or PS4S. They're all incredible tires.

[x.shell]

Originally Posted by hlothery

Very well written and informative article. As I approach the end of the life of the 5P's my car came with, there is much to ponder. As cost is not a consideration (luckily for me), I am leaning toward the PS4S. But thanks to all who have contributed with the genuine purpose of furthering the body of knowledge out there for guys like me to consider. I genuinely appreciate it! As to the trolls..........well, there will always be trolls.

What a gem of a reply. What you say is true; the OP has contributed a great thread with very informative replies despite the trolls.

I am very pleased that Continental came out with this tire. I even started my own thread on it, though not as informative as this one.

[hotrod2448]

I ordered a set of these today to replace my PSS. I figured I'd give them a shot since Michelin didn't care to bring the P4S in an 18" fitment.

[x.shell]

Originally Posted by hotrod2448

I ordered a set of these today to replace my PSS. I figured I'd give them a shot since Michelin didn't care to bring the P4S in an 18" fitment.

Nice. Excited to hear about your experience; good or bad.

[jmg]

Excuse the noob question, but why are the 5Ps more expensive than the newer, sportier(?) ECS?

What advantages do they have on each other?

[trey100]

Originally Posted by jmg

Excuse the noob question, but why are the 5Ps more expensive than the newer, sportier(?) ECS?

What advantages do they have on each other?

It really isn't clear to me how the 5P and ECS line up, especially with the 6 sold mostly overseas. We really just need to wait for all the tests but I'm guessing they will be better than the 5P. One thing I noticed though before buying my 265/295 MPSS setup is that the 295s were about a 1/2" narrower than the 295 MPSS (BMW Star Spec) so overall at that size I went with the MPSS. I also noticed the Conti 6 tires were very heavy.

[Billj747]

Originally Posted by trey100

It really isn't clear to me how the 5P and ECS line up, especially with the 6 sold mostly overseas. We really just need to wait for all the tests but I'm guessing they will be better than the 5P. One thing I noticed though before buying my 265/295 MPSS setup is that the 295s were about a 1/2" narrower than the 295 MPSS (BMW Star Spec) so overall at that size I went with the MPSS. I also noticed the Conti 6 tires were very heavy.

It's clarified in the article.

[trey100]

Originally Posted by Billj747

It's clarified in the article.

I see that is says it is a replacement to the DW but I didn't catch a mention of the 5P or 6. The 5P and DW (and 6 for that matter) were all out at the same time. My assumption is that the DW was the lowest performing of the 3 which the 6 being the highest. I get that from the complaints about the soft sidewalks of the DW and looking at the tread design. So as a replacement to the DW it's not clear how that stacks up against the 5P or the 6.

[Billj747]

Originally Posted by trey100

I see that is says it is a replacement to the DW but I didn't catch a mention of the 5P or 6. The 5P and DW (and 6 for that matter) were all out at the same time. My assumption is that the DW was the lowest performing of the 3 which the 6 being the highest. I get that from the complaints about the soft sidewalks of the DW and looking at the tread design. So as a replacement to the DW it's not clear how that stacks up against the 5P or the 6.

It's on the last page of the article.

[trey100]

Originally Posted by Billj747

It's on the last page of the article.

Thanks pal. Missed the last page.

I already ordered the MPSS only because the 295s have a real wife tread width but if the ECS come out with a 295 I would try them next time.

[swifty]

Originally Posted by trey100

Thanks pal. Missed the last page.

I already ordered the MPSS only because the 295s have a real wife tread width but if the ECS come out with a 295 I would try them next time.

I decided to go with PS4S over this as hardly any cost difference and would like to see more real life experiences from everday drivers.

See a lot of potential for all the new contis coming to the market if the hype is real.

[Dippydo]

I couldn't wait seeing my new wheels collect dust so I got these conti tires in a 275/30(F) and 295/30(R). My car came with the PSS. I will say the new conti tires are the real deal. It is hard to do a direct compare since I went up in size, but what I can tell you is they are a lot quieter than the PSS and feel more solid when I hit those line reflectors on the road that use to rattle the car and now I get thumps. Dry track is better but that can be attributed to the bigger sizes but I can say I do not regret buying them. They are a solid tire and the sidewall looks the same as the new 4S in design/style.

[hotrod2448]

Originally Posted by Dippydo

I couldn't wait seeing my new wheels collect dust so I got these conti tires in a 275/30(F) and 295/30(R). My car came with the PSS. I will say the new conti tires are the real deal. It is hard to do a direct compare since I went up in size, but what I can tell you is they are a lot quieter than the PSS and feel more solid when I hit those line reflectors on the road that use to rattle the car and now I get thumps. Dry track is better but that can be attributed to the bigger sizes but I can say I do not regret buying them. They are a solid tire and the sidewall looks the same as the new 4S in design/style.

Maybe in that they are black and rubber but, the ECS do not have the suede texture the PS4S has on the sidewall. Honestly the styling of the ECS sidewall is a little boring but, it would be a bit crazy if that is a deciding factor for someone.

[Dippydo]

Originally Posted by hotrod2448

Maybe in that they are black and rubber but, the ECS do not have the suede texture the PS4S has on the sidewall. Honestly the styling of the ECS sidewall is a little boring but, it would be a bit crazy if that is a deciding factor for someone.

"Suede texture"? The 4S I've seen didn't have a "suede texture".

[hotrod2448]

Originally Posted by Dippydo

"Suede texture"? The 4S I've seen didn't have a "suede texture".

Suede or velvet whatever they are calling the texture around the Michelin logo.
http://michelinmedia.com/pilot-sport-4s/

[Rick955]

From the noteworthy and made-of-rubber file comes the news that Continental has released its new ExtremeContact Sport summer performance tire. The successor to the ExtremeContact DW, the new tire is intended to be durable, daily drivable, high performing in dry conditions, and capable of delivering high levels of wet-weather grip and braking. But where the DW prioritized wet performance, street manners, and dry handling—in that order—the Sport moves dry handling to the top of the list while still shooting to improve across the rest of the spectrum.

Next, we drove the Sport back to back with the DW in a steering-and-ride exercise using BMW M3s in their (very) firm Sport chassis setting. The cars riding on the new rubber responded to steering inputs in more linear fashion, which would translate to increased confidence. Ride harshness and initial impact behavior also were clearly improved when traversing rippled, high-frequency track curbing and small speed bumps. Put simply, the Sport took more of the edge off big impacts and also was noticeably quieter.

Our final runs were conducted on a wet/dry handling course in Subaru WRXs and more M235i coupes. Here, Continental provided competitive tires for A/B testing, and while the Sport was subjectively neck and neck with the Michelin Pilot Sport in feel and performance during the dry portions, it was demonstrably better than the Michelin and the other two tires (Hankook Ventus V12 evo2 and Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position) in wet handling and braking, a conclusion we also reached with respect to the DW in our last big comparison test of performance tires.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/its-ext...contact-sport/

[afadeev]

This belongs in Tire forum.
More discussion here: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1358846

Originally Posted by Rick955

[...]cars riding on the new rubber responded to steering inputs in more linear fashion, which would translate to increased confidence.

This review is semi-comical.
Linear response to steering inputs?
As opposed to what? Exponential? Parabolic? Random?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by afadeev

This belongs in Tire forum.
More discussion here: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1358846




This review is semi-comical.
Linear response to steering inputs?
As opposed to what? Exponential? Parabolic? Random?

Or maaaaybe they are referring to ....direct, undeviating, predictable. That's how auto journalists use the term "linear", and it is appropriate in that context and use of the English language.

[damnitBobby]

Hopefully they improved on the DW's. I had a set of DW's on my previous 350Z and they were "floaty" at high speeds and steering felt disconnected. They were a comfortable tire though.

[007DT]

Nothing beats Michelin Super Sports.... Until Now. Michelin Pilot Sport 4S.

These are now available in N.America, and untouchable by competition.