Take Over My Order?

[visi107]

Originally Posted by CardsRock76

Now, everything she says is negative and revolves around the car. I can't imagine what life would be like if I went for the M5, nor do I understand what the issue is since she never had a problem the entire last year. Am i supposed to keep my 2004 325 CI forever? We do use her salary to fund my flying though. I'll never understand women. Maybe she wants some jewelry or something, but of course hasn't communicated that. Does everyone else's spouses support their indulgence?

Since I don't know either one of you guys, i'm just guessing here.
Does she drive an old car and now you will get a 70K+ car and she will still be driving an old car?
Is she feeling neglected because you are spending 70K+ on yourself and she isn't getting anything?
Also try to really listen (i know, what the hell is that right lol) to what she is really saying. What are the negative things that she is saying about? is it finance? My guess is, she is thinking she was supportive in letting you get the car you wanted and would like you to do something nice. Does she like shoes? I suggest you get her a pair of Christian Louboutin shoes, and thank me later

[Jimbooo]

My wife had one condition to me buying an M4, that I bought her an X5 too. Then had a brief moment of wobble when the M4 arrived, "your car is super sexy, that's a lady magnet" hang on a minute, panic panic, you'll have women all over you. Then the moment of clarity. "Ahh, don't worry you'll want to drive everywhere now and your cycling will be done with. You'll be fat in no time.. Enjoy the car fat boy ha ha.

Note: I'm yet to see these droves of women drawn to my car!!! And errr the road bike hasn't seen daylight for a while.

[paliknight]

Originally Posted by Jimbooo

My wife had one condition to me buying an M4, that I bought her an X5 too. Then had a brief moment of wobble when the M4 arrived, "your car is super sexy, that's a lady magnet" hang on a minute, panic panic, you'll have women all over you. Then the moment of clarity. "Ahh, don't worry you'll want to drive everywhere now and your cycling will be done with. You'll be fat in no time.. Enjoy the car fat boy ha ha.

Note: I'm yet to see these droves of women drawn to my car!!! And errr the road bike hasn't seen daylight for a while.

A bunch of people assumed the same about me with my M4 but I have also yet to see any women do such a thing. Not saying I want that, but simply demonstrating how peoples opinions are usually incorrect.

[M4fanatic626]

I am not a doctor of psychology but if you want a m3 or m5 which ever car you like stick with it. I think your wife should be supportive of what you want to get. But if money is the issue now, wait till this rough patch gets by then get the M car you want but nevertheless you should get your dream car and enjoy it man. I am sure you married this women for a reason, talk to her let make her understand that this car is a "M" not any other car. My wife is very conservative, like yours she don't know why I wanted a M but she knows that I love cars and she told me it is expensive but she said if you like it make sure it is the color that you want. Good luck man hope you get your M.

[///F80M3]

I took a lot of crap from my family when I ordered the f80 but everyone fell in love with it on delivery day.

People that don't understand cars will always be against it until they actually sit in the car, then they realize what kind of car you bought lol.

[CRtoE92]

Originally Posted by ///F80M3

I took a lot of crap from my family when I ordered the f80 but everyone fell in love with it on delivery day lol.

People that don't understand cars will always be against it until they actually sit in the car, then they realize what kind of car you bought lol.

Well said

[Xawesm]

So if I were to take over this order, would I be saving around 6k + tax + 10% deposit? Im also military overseas and have been looking into buying a BMW. With 10% paid on the car already, I would snatch this up.

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

You guys are scaring me from ever getting married:

[Blksnowflake]

Originally Posted by CardsRock76

So for some clarification, we've been researching cars for the past year, test driving Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, and BMW. She's been involved every step of the way and has never shown any reluctance. When our local military dealer called and said they were ending their program later that day, I had to make a decision within about 4 hours. I called the wife and asked which car I should go with. She's a rather simple person and doesn't understand our passion. To her, it's just a car. She wouldn't help decide and only said get whatever you want. We'll, the bigger engine in the M5 was what I wanted, but there's a significant difference in price. Since I'm also in the process of getting my Private Pilot License and intend on getting a small single engine plane when I'm done, I decided on the cheaper M3 so I could apply some of the difference to the plane. Now, everything she says is negative and revolves around the car. I can't imagine what life would be like if I went for the M5, nor do I understand what the issue is since she never had a problem the entire last year. Am i supposed to keep my 2004 325 CI forever? We do use her salary to fund my flying though. I'll never understand women. Maybe she wants some jewelry or something, but of course hasn't communicated that. Does everyone else's spouses support their indulgence?

You're all over the place. Cross shopping cars for the last year with a woman who doesn't care about cars is bad juju bro. That type of stuff will drive a woman bananas, just pick one....

Then along with a car you are paying for your pilot's license, and then a plane? Just a lot going on, and then to top it off you seem indecisive. This doesn't sound like a woman issue, it sounds to me like a "you" issue and wifey is sick of it.

I've had issues with women not supporting my whims, but in one case she was likely correct because we had bills. In another case, I had no bills but she wasn't used to large purchases.
I don't think any woman or man is supposed support "indulgences", I prefer the word reward. Now if you can pay for your reward, hobby or enthusiast passion without affecting the family then I don't think there will be an issue. Can the family afford this purchase, if so then there should be no concerns and while you're at it treat the wifey to a new Chanel bangle bracelet, a new Rolex or a nice handbag filled with perfume from Tom Ford or Cartier's signature line. One whiff and peace on earth.

Make up your mind, be a leader, tell your wifey your clear intentions, get her blessing and take action.....
I effing hate when I ask, so where do you want to eat.....well, I don't know....what do you want.....(arghhhhh)....ok let's go here then....well I don't want that......facccccckkkkkk. Sorry but when you talk, that's what I'm reminded of.

Marriage can be a blessing and though I'm single now, this isn't caused by a woman, it's caused by miscommunication and indecision.
Good luck.

[USAM3]

I'm only speculating but unless you can purchase the new M car in cash outright, it's probably something you cannot afford on a military salary and your wife knows this but you're in denial. Just my 2 cents from an outsider perspective.

[CardsRock76]

If I wanted to lose the deposit, I could walk away now. You pay same price as me. Like I said, not sure if the mil price is good, but a lot of people can't get it. Sales tax in my state is 7% or a little over $5k. That with the $6k mil discount is $11k savings.

[CardsRock76]

Appreciate everyone's advice. Money isn't a problem. I wouldn't be shopping for an M car and a plane if it was. Just her bad attitude, but she's starting to come around. Last night she was trying to talk me into YMB. I think listing it on here might have helped. Or it might have been everyone's photos of their ED trips. We live in the UK, so it's nothing for us to get to Germany. We just spent Christmas in Zermatt, Switzerland and she's looking for a reason to go back to the Alps.

[64-bit]

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[aramz09]

Originally Posted by dharo1

Brother, I've been in the same situation. Totally understand you.
Those saying to lose wife are either single or in their second, third marriage.
Sorry guys, but happy wife happy life

This is true! couldn't say it any better. props bro.

To the OP, I was in your shoes just a few months ago. Was in Japan since 2012 as well. I initially wanted the M4, discussed it with my wife she said ''4 doors or no go''. So i said ok the M3. She picked out the colors, white exterior and SO interior; was my picked anyway lol. What I did not tell her was it was manual, lol.

[aramz09]

Originally Posted by Kortho

I don't know about everyone but my wife is the one that convinced me I should get an M3 and gave me the down payment for it.

Obviously your wife has to be ok with such a large purchase but is she just having some pre-purchase anxiety?

Does your wife wear the pants in the house?

[AIRPOWER]

Originally Posted by CardsRock76

If I wanted to lose the deposit, I could walk away now. You pay same price as me. Like I said, not sure if the mil price is good, but a lot of people can't get it. Sales tax in my state is 7% or a little over $5k. That with the $6k mil discount is $11k savings.

Unfortunately, if someone does "take over" your order, they WILL have to pay sales tax. There are only 5 ways to avoid paying sales tax on this vehicle.

1. Have the car delivered to Europe, register and drive for at least 6 months and then have BMW ship it to the states. The state that it is registered in will accept the European registration and "assume" sales tax has been paid already.

2. Ship the car to the states as planned, have a military member or someone on Foreign Diplomat status "take over" the car that has a sales tax exemption clause in their state of record and register the car in that state.

3. Register the car in a state that has no sales tax - this requires to be a resident in that state which are Montana, Alaska, NH and Oregon.

4. Become a resident of Washington DC, lie to them by saying it's the new M3 Hybrid and gets over 40mpg

5. Steal some random 2016 matching color M3 plates and registration, although the longevity and legality of the option is somewhat questionable.

Just wanted to give the "Paul Harvey" on the sales tax before someone thinks they are saving $11K....they are saving roughly 7% off MSRP (which is roughly the military discount that BMW gives for M3)

One last thing to the OP, if you cancel the order now, you COULD lose your 10% deposit- true, if the car is not built yet you will most likely get it all back, if the car is being built then they will try to find a new buyer which should be no problem. Either way you will get your deposit back.

Call international Military/Diplomatic sales direct in Munich (+49 89 382-19999) ask for Loukas Sifnaios, their email is customercare.icds@bmw.com, don't take what your POS Military SA is telling you!

Good luck

[Naz24]

At least your wife isnt like the lady i parked next to this weekend in a brand new GT3.

Me: "wow, thats a beautiful car"

Her: "Yeah it was my 20 year anniversary gift, [in super spoiled obnoxious voice] I"LL TAKE IT, I"LL TAKE IT"

Me: SMFH

[washy]

We have an M4 on order currently. It is our 25th wedding anniversary present to ourselves. I am lucky though as my wife is as nuts about cars as I am. She even shares my passion for motorbikes too...

[Kortho]

Originally Posted by aramz09

Does your wife wear the pants in the house?

Nope she's just more supportive then you can obviously imagine with a statement like that

[vonmayr]

You know, based on what I read on these forums every day, this would be the last place I would turn for relationship advice if I was CardsRock76.

[Aud Dr]

Originally Posted by CardsRock76

So for some clarification, we've been researching cars for the past year, test driving Porsche, Audi, Mercedes, and BMW. She's been involved every step of the way and has never shown any reluctance. When our local military dealer called and said they were ending their program later that day, I had to make a decision within about 4 hours. I called the wife and asked which car I should go with. She's a rather simple person and doesn't understand our passion. To her, it's just a car. She wouldn't help decide and only said get whatever you want. We'll, the bigger engine in the M5 was what I wanted, but there's a significant difference in price. Since I'm also in the process of getting my Private Pilot License and intend on getting a small single engine plane when I'm done, I decided on the cheaper M3 so I could apply some of the difference to the plane. Now, everything she says is negative and revolves around the car. I can't imagine what life would be like if I went for the M5, nor do I understand what the issue is since she never had a problem the entire last year. Am i supposed to keep my 2004 325 CI forever? We do use her salary to fund my flying though. I'll never understand women. Maybe she wants some jewelry or something, but of course hasn't communicated that. Does everyone else's spouses support their indulgence?

My wife didn't know what an M was when I ordered it. She just thought it was another BMW. I've had it a month now and she has figured out that it isn't JUST another 4 door like the past cars. Some days she is not happy with how much I spent on it and it was about 10 grand more than she thinks. Other days she seems quite proud of me and my success and the better than average car I've rewarded myself with. I will say that her tolerance changes at different times of the month. I've learned to embrace the days that she is supportive and just let things go when she is looking for something to fight about. Sometimes little things make the difference though in how she feels about my spending. I make sure I fold the laundry and pick up around the house because these are things that are important to her. I fold the laundry, I get an M. Fair enough.

Good luck with however things work out with car. Hopefully your wife has a change of heart.