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      11-07-2019, 11:43 AM   #2421
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Just picked my car up from the dealer after getting this kit installed. Ride is amazing! I absolutely love it. I was worried that it may be too firm for my liking, but that is not the case whatsoever. As many have said, the ride is compliant and the car feels more planted. I get a chuckle when reading this thread and coming across the folks that say "the car should've come this way from the factory," but that phrase holds true 1000%.

I'm at the BMW recommended ride height for 19" wheels, but am considering going a bit lower. That said, how much can I really expect the springs (and subsequent ride) height to settle within the next few hundred miles? A few mm?
How long was the installation hours at the dealership? I emailed the local dealership that have experience installing this kit and told them the instruction shows around 4.5 hrs of labor but I was told that the installation hour is incorrect? I was quoted 9 hours of labor plus alignment for $1820.00. I'm just curious for an average hours for this kit... Thanks!

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Just an update since my first impressions:

Took the car out on a more spirited drive today, and drove along the roads with a little more elevation change under full throttle. And here is where MP HAS limitations are exposed.

I knew this going in, and this has already been discussed at length, but it's true that the stock shocks are the problem here. MP HAS is so much better than my previous MS springs - you definitely get what you pay for here. But you also only get what you pay for by sticking with stock shocks. Echoing many before me, the stock shocks are a tad underdamped. Sure, it's comfortable, but I had to lift off and pucker up on my reference dip where my B16 just ran over it. But even in less extreme cases, traction control just kicks in a lot more often than on the B16 kit, whether the road is flat or mildly bumpy/uneven. In the end, I'd sum it up like this.

- If all you want is to be lower, get MP HAS. You're going to get an essentially stock experience and love it. Don't waste your time on Macht Schnell springs. Can't comment on any other set, but I believe the rears were too low just riding the bump stops, and even with the extra spacers, very crashy.

- If you want a genuine performance improvement you can notice all the time, for the money you can't go wrong with B16 Damptronic if you have EDC and want to keep it. Yes, it's stiffer than MP HAS (Comfort is roughly between Sport and Sport+), but you're getting so much more stability and grip in return.

Now, addressing the elephant in the room: Why would I "downgrade" from B16 Damptronic to MP HAS? Well, I'm not single anymore, and I have more people to drive around than I used to. My wife has been driving a Lexus for the past 15 years, and has a very different idea than I do for what is considered comfortable. I enjoy driving my M3, and I don't want to avoid driving it because she doesn't want to ride in it. In addition, I am kind of setting up my car to be sold easier if/when the time comes. I don't want to limit my potential buyers to only enthusiasts who would appreciate the B16 kit - it's no secret that stock cars sell better since the market is bigger. MP HAS is close enough that I could win over a more casual buyer.

Sorry if it's long, but I hope this helps EDC owners looking for an upgrade to pick the right kit for their goals. My B16 kit is for sale on the classifieds for anyone interested.
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We'd have to have a serious word with Bilstein if this kit was better than the B16 kit in the handling department.
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How long was the installation hours at the dealership? I emailed the local dealership that have experience installing this kit and told them the instruction shows around 4.5 hrs of labor but I was told that the installation hour is incorrect? I was quoted 9 hours of labor plus alignment for $1820.00. I'm just curious for an average hours for this kit... Thanks!
I checked my paperwork and labor came to 9.20 hours and just over $1,200 total. The dealer had my car overnight. I opted not to do the $199 alignment at the time of install and wait for the springs to settle. I have since had the alignment done and everything is to my liking.
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I checked my paperwork and labor came to 9.20 hours and just over $1,200 total. The dealer had my car overnight. I opted not to do the $199 alignment at the time of install and wait for the springs to settle. I have since had the alignment done and everything is to my liking.
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Anyone know where I might be able to buy the hardware kit alone?
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Anyone know where I might be able to buy the hardware kit alone?
Message getBMWparts on here....I'm sure they'd sell you the kit. It's $65 if you buy it with the HAS kit, might be more on it's own.
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Anyone know where I might be able to buy the hardware kit alone?
https://www.bmwpartspros.com/

They also have the hardware kit.
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