Mishimoto or ESS?

CT_M3 · 11-24-2020, 10:20 PM

Hi, done a lot of searching on different charge pipes as I've been thinking of getting a set.

I've narrowed it down to 2 brands 1) Mishimoto 2) ESS Silicone Pipes
I don't think I see meth in my future lol, wanted to see if I can get current users to chime in.

Looking for best fitment.

Thanks a bunch!

tom @ eas · 11-24-2020, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CT_M3

Hi, done a lot of searching on different charge pipes as I've been thinking of getting a set.

I've narrowed it down to 2 brands 1) Mishimoto 2) ESS Silicone Pipes
I don't think I see meth in my future lol, wanted to see if I can get current users to chime in.

Looking for best fitment.

Thanks a bunch!

Purely cosmetic at this point since neither offer any performance benefits, just durability over the stock plastic pieces.

Both brands fit well.

E92inSG · 11-24-2020, 11:56 PM

i would go silicone if you think you will never use the charge pipes for meth injection. purely from the standpoint of being more resistant to heat soak.

fitment wise, the mishimoto has the best reviews but silicone is flexible

mike@x-ph.com · 11-25-2020, 09:43 AM

Both area quality brands, Mishimoto have been much more popular for us lately and it's very highly rated.

TakeOne · 11-25-2020, 09:54 AM

Flip a coin. Both excellent brands! If I were going to spray in the charge pipes, I'd go with Mishimoto without hesitation. Before Mishimoto released theirs to market, I had already pulled the trigger on my ESS charge pipes. No issues. Honestly, see who has the better of the sales this weekend

TopJimmy · 11-25-2020, 06:21 PM

Best fit = Mishi
Cooler IAT = Silicone

Silicone usually needs tweaking and trimming for a good fit. They can be problematic with engine cover clearance. I thought the lower IAT was worth it so I picked VTT and keep my engine cover off. I'm going for power now.

Commanderwiggin · 11-25-2020, 07:34 PM

I like the ESS Silicone, they did require a bit of trimming to get them perfectly where I wanted but it was worth it.

TopJimmy · 11-25-2020, 08:51 PM

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I like the ESS Silicone, they did require a bit of trimming to get them perfectly where I wanted but it was worth it.

Any hood rub (or other) from your engine cover after using the ESS set?

CT92F80 · 11-25-2020, 09:08 PM

I have the Mishimoto chargepipes. Fits perfectly like stock. No clearance issues with engine cover. Money well spent. Has lifetime warranty from Mishimoto as well

ckendri · 11-25-2020, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CT92F80

I have the Mishimoto chargepipes. Fits perfectly like stock. No clearance issues with engine cover. Money well spent. Has lifetime warranty from Mishimoto as well

+1 for mishimoto. I have them, and they fit great.

Kilabyte · 11-25-2020, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by E92inSG

i would go silicone if you think you will never use the charge pipes for meth injection. purely from the standpoint of being more resistant to heat soak.

fitment wise, the mishimoto has the best reviews but silicone is flexible

Another reason to go silicone is if you do your own plugs

sly1types · 11-26-2020, 02:59 PM

What do you guys think of CTS charge pipes vs ER charge pipes? I am wanting Meth bungs on each pipe, just not sure its worth twice the money.

Fuel-It! · 11-26-2020, 07:37 PM

I tested the BMS silicon pipes and they fit well but if you're doing it I'd go with aluminum. We run the BMS Elite on ours currently.

Fuel-It! · 11-26-2020, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CT92F80

I have the Mishimoto chargepipes. Fits perfectly like stock. No clearance issues with engine cover. Money well spent. Has lifetime warranty from Mishimoto as well

I'm not sure how I feel about that weld seam/transition on the front chargepipe, seems likely to be restrictive vs a fully mandrel bend?

CT92F80 · 11-26-2020, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CT92F80

I have the Mishimoto chargepipes. Fits perfectly like stock. No clearance issues with engine cover. Money well spent. Has lifetime warranty from Mishimoto as well

I'm not sure how I feel about that weld seam/transition on the front chargepipe, seems likely to be restrictive vs a fully mandrel bend?

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Originally Posted by CT92F80

I have the Mishimoto chargepipes. Fits perfectly like stock. No clearance issues with engine cover. Money well spent. Has lifetime warranty from Mishimoto as well

I'm not sure how I feel about that weld seam/transition on the front chargepipe, seems likely to be restrictive vs a fully mandrel bend?

Not restrictive at all. It's actually feels more responsive now. Pulls nicely throughout the rev range. If you see how the factory plastic charge pipes become flat in some spots, Mishimoto's is more round in most areas. You can't even see most of the pipes anyways. I bought them more as prevention to cracked chargepipes. It's a really nice and solid piece. Flow bench tested as well

Commanderwiggin · 11-27-2020, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin

I like the ESS Silicone, they did require a bit of trimming to get them perfectly where I wanted but it was worth it.

Any hood rub (or other) from your engine cover after using the ESS set?

No hood rub

mike@x-ph.com · 11-28-2020, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sly1types

What do you guys think of CTS charge pipes vs ER charge pipes? I am wanting Meth bungs on each pipe, just not sure its worth twice the money.

Both are high quality, they'll fit well and wont fail or leak.

The Evolution Racewerks is superior when it comes to finish quality. In my opinion, they have the best finish quality on the market.

You can't go wrong with either one

11-24-2020, 10:20 PM	#1
CT_M3 Lieutenant 1478 Rep 599 Posts Drives: F80 M3 DCT Competition Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	Mishimoto or ESS? Hi, done a lot of searching on different charge pipes as I've been thinking of getting a set. I've narrowed it down to 2 brands 1) Mishimoto 2) ESS Silicone Pipes I don't think I see meth in my future lol, wanted to see if I can get current users to chime in. Looking for best fitment. Thanks a bunch!
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E92inSG Captain 553 Rep 815 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Asia iTrader: (1)	i would go silicone if you think you will never use the charge pipes for meth injection. purely from the standpoint of being more resistant to heat soak. fitment wise, the mishimoto has the best reviews but silicone is flexible
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mike@x-ph.com BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 24095 Rep 190,633 Posts Drives: 07-335/12-328/18-M4/21-M4CP Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (23)	Both area quality brands, Mishimoto have been much more popular for us lately and it's very highly rated. __________________ Check out our current sale by clicking on this link! https://x-ph.com/sale/ Phone number 702-494-9435
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TakeOne Just1MoreMod 353 Rep 712 Posts Drives: F80 M3, F48 X1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: mid-atlantic iTrader: (7)	Flip a coin. Both excellent brands! If I were going to spray in the charge pipes, I'd go with Mishimoto without hesitation. Before Mishimoto released theirs to market, I had already pulled the trigger on my ESS charge pipes. No issues. Honestly, see who has the better of the sales this weekend __________________ Stage 3 - Pure Turbo F80 M3 Dinan Infested F48 X1
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TopJimmy Major General 5450 Rep 5,143 Posts Drives: 2023 M3 Comp xDrive Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Chester County, PA iTrader: (5)	Best fit = Mishi Cooler IAT = Silicone Silicone usually needs tweaking and trimming for a good fit. They can be problematic with engine cover clearance. I thought the lower IAT was worth it so I picked VTT and keep my engine cover off. I'm going for power now. __________________ '18 F80 Base 6MT \| '19 F82 Exec DCT \| '18 F82 Comp Exec DCT \| '23 G80cx
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Commanderwiggin Major 2049 Rep 1,200 Posts Drives: M2C - X3M - Turbo E46 M3 - 45E Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: SOCAL iTrader: (2)	I like the ESS Silicone, they did require a bit of trimming to get them perfectly where I wanted but it was worth it. __________________ 575RWHP F87 M2C - ECUTEK RACEROM with flex fuel tuning by Bend Calibration 1000+RWHP E46 M3, Lab22 Built Turbo S54, Bend Calibration Tuned - BMW Half Mile Record Holder
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CT92F80 First Lieutenant 136 Rep 326 Posts Drives: 2017 F80 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: SoCal iTrader: (4)	I have the Mishimoto chargepipes. Fits perfectly like stock. No clearance issues with engine cover. Money well spent. Has lifetime warranty from Mishimoto as well Attached Images
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sly1types Captain 432 Rep 937 Posts Drives: F80M3 and E46M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KC iTrader: (0)	What do you guys think of CTS charge pipes vs ER charge pipes? I am wanting Meth bungs on each pipe, just not sure its worth twice the money. __________________ F80 M3-DCT MaxPSI CH, BM3 with F80 Paul E85 and Custom Rom track tune MCS 2Way Remotes Signature SV104 E46 M3 F85 X5M https://www.instagram.com/fastmacm3/
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Fuel-It! Banned 550 Rep 949 Posts Drives: M4, M5, M2C, X4M, 440i, etc... Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Phoenix AZ iTrader: (0)	I tested the BMS silicon pipes and they fit well but if you're doing it I'd go with aluminum. We run the BMS Elite on ours currently.
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