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the FI's on the other hand, are not only the real deal intrinsically, but they also look the part. the only other wheel that comes close to matching its looks is the HRE P101. |
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I wasn't really making a case for the CI-R, quite the opposite. |
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I need those BBS FI-R! Let's see what the 20s look like mounted!
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The 18" 513M wheels with tires are 44.0 lbs front and 48.2 lbs rear.
The 19" 437M wheels with tires are 45.9 lbs front and 49.8 lbs rear. The 20" BBS Fi-R with tires weigh in at 43.5 lbs front and 47.5 lbs rear! Front: Rear:
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Anyone in the market for a top of the line wheel and has the money to spend isn't interested in the CI-R even if it looks similar. Likewise, someone only wanting a "look" won't be interested in a top of the line wheel like the FI-R and spending that much money. Put another way... anyone on a limited budget or only changing wheels for looks won't be in the market for an FI-R even if the CI-R didn't exist. Anyone who is in the market for a wheel of the calibre of the FI-R would never then consider the CI-R which is relatively heavy. If anything, the CI-R will IMPROVE overall BBS sales... people who like the look of the FI-R but can't afford it might buy the CI-R. Anyone who wanted an FI-R would only buy the FI-R regardless. Why? They have the $$ and either want the quality or the bragging rights and the CI-R give them neither.
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From enthusiasts point of view, both look good and similar. |
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08-23-2015, 12:31 PM | #33 | |
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Why would anyone in their right mind pay for FI-R if weight and quality were secondary considerations? There are many WAY less expensive wheels that look similar whether they are the heavy CI-R or something else. BBS making the CI-R wouldn't change anything for this group. One last thing... they look similar... maybe... but the CI-R have no concavity and do not look as good. Weight difference is HUGE and would be noticeable in driving. CI-R's are NOT a replacement or alternative to the FI-R except for people who don't care about those things and for someone that does care, the CI-R is not a good option IMO.
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The wheels shall be the icing on the cake of my M4, after all other mods are done. I will either get BBS-FI-R most likely or less likely HRE P-101. CI-R will never be a consideration.
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325/25/20 if I were going for 20's on Rear.
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But the BBS FI-R is in a different market. You don't buy the FI-R for looks. You buy them because you are a fanatic about unsprung weight and strength. The CI-R will sell more because it imitates the looks of the FI-R. But no one that is seriously considering a set of FI-R will comparison shop the CI-R. Indeed, I would be shocked if any M3 owner would downgrade from the stock wheels -- which are truly excellent and very light weight -- for the BBS CI-R. A rare lucky few will go for the 8 lbs total reduction in unsprung weight with the 19" FI-R. I love these wheels, they are my favorites by far; but at $750 per lb. reduction I can't justify a new set. For the $ I would rather pick up a used BMW S1000r for a serious performance upgrade...
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No, the 20" BBS FI-R wheels/tires are lighter by a small amount than the 18" 513M OEM! The difference between 19" FI-R and 19" 437M is very significant.
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I want a set of these for my incoming GT350.
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