Does the M3 CS have a carbon fiber driveshaft?

[DDS2015]

I'm considering a trading my 2016 "civic" M4 MT for a leftover 2018 M3 CS. But, first I wanted to find out if it still has the carbon driveshaft. The official press release doesn't specify, and I could not find a definitive answer anywhere on this forum either.

[dallastide]

Supposedly the special models weren't going to be affected by the change (https://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/...or-a-steel-one) but not sure if that was true or not.

[gatorfast]

Will this really affect your decision whether to purchase one or not?

[ntg44]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Will this really affect your decision whether to purchase one or not?

Finally someone said it.

[DDS2015]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Will this really affect your decision whether to purchase one or not?

It really wouldn't sway me one way or the other.

I'm more so looking for the information on what I gain vs what I give up.

Also I do like to know what I'm buying typically.

[E46M3forRay]

well to answer the question ..

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Will this really affect your decision whether to purchase one or not?

Right. Who gives a shit. I'm about to pick up a 2020 ZCP in a few weeks. Couldn't care less.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

Right. Who gives a shit. I'm about to pick up a 2020 ZCP in a few weeks. Couldn't care less.

I get probably nobody could feel the difference, but if you are paying a premium for a "lightweight" CS I can see people caring about it.

I do, even though it could be steel right now and I wouldn't know the difference. I know it's dumb, but I'm a gear head so..........

[dezzracer]

I have a an M3 CS And I would be interested in the confirmed answer to that as well.

By the way...would you mind sharing what you would be paying for that leftover M3CS? I bought mine first week of December 2018 and paid 93,400. I know guys are getting the last ones around for less now but at least I did not pay the 104K sticker.

[325iExecutive]

Based on an article from The Drive - special models will continue to have carbon based drive shafts.

https://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/...or-a-steel-one

[DDS2015]

Originally Posted by dezzracer

By the way...would you mind sharing what you would be paying for that leftover M3CS? I bought mine first week of December 2018 and paid 93,400. I know guys are getting the last ones around for less now but at least I did not pay the 104K sticker.

I'm in Canada so prices don't compare 100%. But it's a 119 sticker price and it's discounted to 99,900. My M4 had a 104 sticker in 2016

We'll see, not 100% sure about it yet. A lot of variables need to line up. I don't want to start the whole DCT vs MT debate, but I do love my MT. Hence why I'm having so much trouble with the decision.

And yes, the carbon driveshaft is important to me because I want the car to feel special.

[E46M3forRay]

Originally Posted by DDS2015

And yes, the carbon driveshaft is important to me because I want the car to feel special.

I immediately lift the car up in the air as soon as i had the chance to confirm and make sure I didn’t get shafted.

[Soylent]

Ray- what lift are you using?

[BS_CS]

Originally Posted by E46M3forRay

I immediately lift the car up in the air as soon as i had the chance to confirm and make sure I didn’t get shafted.

Looks like the Carbon one to me. Thanks for confirming - https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=921523

[KANdaddy]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Will this really affect your decision whether to purchase one or not?

C'mon, bro. We all know his lap times around the mall will be drastically lowered w/out the CF driveshaft....

[NSX2M4]

Even if the driveshaft isn't carbon, you save weight with the cardboard door panels.

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by 325iExecutive

Based on an article from The Drive - special models will continue to have carbon based drive shafts.

https://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/...or-a-steel-one

Oddly worded and I’m confused. So If it’s an emissions thing where these laws are enacted then all M models should have to follow the regulations, no? Why are some “special” models exempt and not subject to the emissions regulation? They don’t need the extra room needed to fit this special emissions filter?

Or is this just BS from BMW, cost cutting and then making the claim of a “A narrower, "M-specific high-performance" steel part will take their place instead. BMW asserts that it has engineered the steel shaft to retain the "superlative performance and handling qualities" achieved with the carbon fiber component”...to make us feel better?

CF or special steel, whatever!

[allinon72]

I can't imagine trading in my lowly '15 for a 100k+ CS and it having LESS features to make it go faster. In a vacuum, would it affect my purchasing decision? Probably not, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't piss me off.

[E46M3forRay]

Originally Posted by Soylent

Ray- what lift are you using?

Quickjack 5000

[Maitre_Absolut]

Originally Posted by DDS2015

I'm in Canada so prices don't compare 100%. But it's a 119 sticker price and it's discounted to 99,900. My M4 had a 104 sticker in 2016

We'll see, not 100% sure about it yet. A lot of variables need to line up. I don't want to start the whole DCT vs MT debate, but I do love my MT. Hence why I'm having so much trouble with the decision.

And yes, the carbon driveshaft is important to me because I want the car to feel special.

Thats my twin and a great price. Granted I had one of the first deliveries and they all sold quickly in Toronto. Seems like Alberta and Manitoba have had trouble moving these, last 3 left in the country.

[elisiX]

A few guys on the CS facebook group have confirmed that the CS does indeed retain the carbon driveshaft.

[TR930]

Stronger drive components might make a difference on " enhanced" upgraded M3's??