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      01-29-2020, 01:15 PM   #23
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I'm not sure why people say it's more tossable. I drove my neighbor's M2 and seems just as heavy as my F80. If you want light you have to change brands. My Mini S is a lot more tossable than any new M car.
It’s the narrow wheel base. Weight’s not much different.
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      01-29-2020, 05:31 PM   #24
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It’s the narrow wheel base. Weight’s not much different.
That short wheelbase made my m2 jittery and a chore at higher speeds. I had an m235i and had hoped the m2 was even better. I honestly thought the m235i was a much better overall car. The interior on the m2 was kinda rough. The basketball leather was bad. I was completely underwhelmed by the car. It wasnt as lively as the 235, and obviously way slower than my m5 before. It was neither more fun, faster, better, or more comfortable. The second I got into my m3, I knew the m2 was staying at the dealership

Just my .02. According to the blogs and mags, I'm the only person in the world who couldnt wait to unload my m2
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      01-29-2020, 06:21 PM   #25
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All the love that M2 gets and all the hate the M3 gets really doesn't make sense.

My main complaints about the M3 are exhaust sound and steering feel (relative to previous versions). M2 isn't any better in those two categories. And it's worse in just about every other way. It's not even much lighter despite being smaller.

I think I just need to drive the M2 to see what's going on there. Specs don't tell a full story.
Way before I got my F80 I had an MK7 GTI 6 Speed performance pack. I thought the steering was excellent. Then I find myself reading an article about the M2 and they randomly mention the steering/feel in the new GTI is better than the M2.

It's also better than my F80 in my opinion... I just had more sense of what was going on with the steering on the GTI. The F80 is good I just felt the GTI was damn good...

Back to my mediocre F80...
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I once drove an OG M2 and I really enjoyed it. The car was DCT. Honestly, the M2 seems like a more natural fit for the 6 speed manual than the M3/M4. If I didn't want four doors at the time of my M3 purchase I would have strongly considered an M2.
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      01-30-2020, 11:21 AM   #27
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I liked the M2 I test drove. It was a 6 speed and sounded great. With a couple bolt ons I'm sure you can make an M2 as fast as an S55 car. My problem with the M2 is they cut a lot of good things out of it that you get in an M3/M4... you would expect some weight savings. That and the styling is weird... the m2 has a shorter wheelbase than the M4 but sits an inch higher.
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      01-30-2020, 11:26 AM   #28
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the m2 has a shorter wheelbase than the M4 but sits an inch higher.
When you smush a car together, hey, that roof needs to go somewhere
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