Lowering M4 = Bad ass or a Pain in the ass?

Revvvm3 · 05-12-2018, 12:38 PM

Lowering is a must

Smeargle · 05-12-2018, 01:06 PM

significantly lowered in shitty ny and i havent scraped yet

THEROK · 05-14-2018, 06:14 PM

An F8X lowered on perfectly fitting, wider than stock 20" wheels is art in motion to me.

There is no other way to be.

Exhibit A

@manuelf

mtyl3rr · 05-17-2018, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NickyC

BAD ASS, and it's not even close. Lowering the car makes the machine, it's a must do!!

Here's mine, wouldn't have it any other way. ZERO rubs ever, it's perfect!

What's your suspension setup?

ByeFelicia · 06-07-2018, 11:32 AM

Yeah, it's a must, do it.

slaughter.mode · 06-07-2018, 12:44 PM

It's a must. The car feels unfinished at stock height. Lowering=more planted, handles like an M should.

It is also a PITA if you don't have a good shop to do it.

I'm currently in the process of completely re-doing a MPHAS install because the shop didn't do it right. Resulting in a ton of popping and clunking noises, a strange discrepancy in height from side to side, and missing hardware.

Pay BMW to do it if you go with the MPHAS kit.

SROC3 · 06-09-2018, 09:02 PM

I have V3s.....amazing.. better than stock and rides perfect. NO problems over curbs or humps. drives normal. highly recommend it

SinatraM · 07-06-2018, 02:04 PM

anyone have h&r sports? wanna just get something for now to lower it than buy the KW V3s after i finish other mods

Justin.AutoTalent · 07-06-2018, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SinatraM

anyone have h&r sports? wanna just get something for now to lower it than buy the KW V3s after i finish other mods

I highly suggest Emmotion Springs over the H&R if you're looking for a nice, aggressive drop.

H&R is really bouncy

SinatraM · 07-06-2018, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

I highly suggest Emmotion Springs over the H&R if you're looking for a nice, aggressive drop.

H&R is really bouncy

im in upstate NY 1.3' drop, isnt that risky?

Justin.AutoTalent · 07-06-2018, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SinatraM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

I highly suggest Emmotion Springs over the H&R if you're looking for a nice, aggressive drop.

H&R is really bouncy

im in upstate NY 1.3' drop, isnt that risky?

I would run swift then for a more conservative drop. Usually people go H&R for the lowest they can go on springs, until Emmotion came out

SinatraM · 07-06-2018, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

I would run swift then for a more conservative drop. Usually people go H&R for the lowest they can go on springs, until Emmotion came out

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Swift-Spec-...oAAOSw8hhapt5T

these ones? @Justin.AutoTalent

Justin.AutoTalent · 07-06-2018, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SinatraM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Swift-Spec-...oAAOSw8hhapt5T

these ones? @Justin.AutoTalent

Correct, PM me if you need any assistance.

I am a vendor for Swift

KakashiSenpai · 07-06-2018, 03:37 PM

Do it! Replaced 4 front flips within 3 years .. Angles & patience is a big factor. Still have not learned my lesson

KW V3's

Andrew30azs · 03-27-2019, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

I am on Swift springs and do not scrub on anything. I had KW V3 on my 15 and it was a nightmare getting around town. The rears were so low even at the highest setting so jacking up the front to an acceptable level looked dumb.

Where u live ?

afisherunc · 03-27-2019, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerBill458

Lowered rides look fantastic but I have to imagine it is a pain in the ass many times.

Are there thoughts from folks who have lowered their cars on the minuses of doing so?
- always scraping on speed bumps and curb stops and driveways.. etc?

Never scraped or had issues with Swift lowering springs (though a valet did), you just have to take grade changes, like entrances to gas stations and parking decks, slowly. Then, I added a front lip and now I search for gas stations and parking decks I can get into. Still, I wouldn't change a thing!

MFNATIK · 03-27-2019, 06:54 PM

I've been stock for 2 years on my ZCP with MPerformance lip and I'll never lower my car. It's just not worth it anymore now that I'm older. Maybe if I was in my 20s and don't mind cutting angles for every curb or driveway. Just too old for that shit these days hahah

ByeFelicia · 03-28-2019, 12:40 AM

Im on swifts but will eventually go coilovers later. This lip in particular has made life a bit harder but i'm used to it and wouldn't have it any other way.

WESTCOASTTRADING · 05-04-2019, 09:12 PM

it's a must. MUST

Fast4d · 05-05-2019, 05:45 AM

I've touching midlife age so I've been into performance cars for over 30 years. about 8 years ago I stopped lowering my cars.

A car should have good dampers with proper rates and decent spring rates that works for the range of travel you have.

on a street driven car the lost suspension travel makes your car handle worst and lose traction. as you need HIGHER spring rates to resist bottoming. As I ride motorcycles I know bottoming out is really BAD on a bike while leaned over.

excessive lowering also move your geometry out of order.

I don't want to lower my F80 as it has lower ride height already.

SushiM3 · 05-06-2019, 08:50 PM

Definitely worth it. I’m lowered on Swift’s and have the m performance lip on my car. I don’t scrape very often, as long as I’m paying attention to the road and enter driveways at an angle. Even when I do scrape, the m performance lip seems to take quite a beating without any issue. Had it on for a few months now and it looks identical to new. You can only see a few small scrapes on the underside when the car is on a lift, but for a 390$ plastic part, I think it’s quite good.

shay2nak · 05-07-2019, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by unleashed

Lowered is a must!

which side skirts are on your car?

05-12-2018, 12:38 PM	#45
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THEROK Major 1268 Rep 1,287 Posts Drives: Genesis GV80 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gangnam District iTrader: (0)	An F8X lowered on perfectly fitting, wider than stock 20" wheels is art in motion to me. There is no other way to be. Exhibit A @manuelf __________________ Dry sump flat six Last edited by THEROK; 05-14-2018 at 06:21 PM..
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slaughter.mode Major 882 Rep 1,044 Posts Drives: 2018 M4 Competition Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Chino Hills, California iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M4 ZCP [9.80]	It's a must. The car feels unfinished at stock height. Lowering=more planted, handles like an M should. It is also a PITA if you don't have a good shop to do it. I'm currently in the process of completely re-doing a MPHAS install because the shop didn't do it right. Resulting in a ton of popping and clunking noises, a strange discrepancy in height from side to side, and missing hardware. Pay BMW to do it if you go with the MPHAS kit.
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07-06-2018, 02:04 PM	#52
SinatraM . 93 Rep 214 Posts Drives: 20 GTR Join Date: May 2018 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	anyone have h&r sports? wanna just get something for now to lower it than buy the KW V3s after i finish other mods
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KakashiSenpai Troll 461 Rep 228 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Comp Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Carefree Az iTrader: (2)	Do it! Replaced 4 front flips within 3 years .. Angles & patience is a big factor. Still have not learned my lesson KW V3's Attached Images
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MFNATIK Blocked from G80/G82 for having an opinion 3498 Rep 3,729 Posts Drives: Trek Domane Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Mexicali iTrader: (1)	I've been stock for 2 years on my ZCP with MPerformance lip and I'll never lower my car. It's just not worth it anymore now that I'm older. Maybe if I was in my 20s and don't mind cutting angles for every curb or driveway. Just too old for that shit these days hahah
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ByeFelicia Captain 399 Rep 852 Posts Drives: F80 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: . iTrader: (2)	Im on swifts but will eventually go coilovers later. This lip in particular has made life a bit harder but i'm used to it and wouldn't have it any other way.
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WESTCOASTTRADING First Lieutenant 106 Rep 345 Posts Drives: 06 M3 Coupe Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	it's a must. MUST
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05-05-2019, 05:45 AM	#64
Fast4d Captain 267 Rep 885 Posts Drives: 325 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: So cal iTrader: (0)	I've touching midlife age so I've been into performance cars for over 30 years. about 8 years ago I stopped lowering my cars. A car should have good dampers with proper rates and decent spring rates that works for the range of travel you have. on a street driven car the lost suspension travel makes your car handle worst and lose traction. as you need HIGHER spring rates to resist bottoming. As I ride motorcycles I know bottoming out is really BAD on a bike while leaned over. excessive lowering also move your geometry out of order. I don't want to lower my F80 as it has lower ride height already. __________________ SAFE-GUARD tire/wheel/windshield/paint protection is a FRAUD! do not waste your money!
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SushiM3 Private First Class 123 Rep 112 Posts Drives: 18 ZCP M3 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Fremont,CA iTrader: (0)	Definitely worth it. I’m lowered on Swift’s and have the m performance lip on my car. I don’t scrape very often, as long as I’m paying attention to the road and enter driveways at an angle. Even when I do scrape, the m performance lip seems to take quite a beating without any issue. Had it on for a few months now and it looks identical to new. You can only see a few small scrapes on the underside when the car is on a lift, but for a 390$ plastic part, I think it’s quite good.
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