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08-18-2015, 01:43 PM | #45 |
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it can't be posted on the front page of bimmerpost if the article is not released by the magazine on their webiste.
now that it is posted on c and d's website, they can put the info on their site "officially"
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I don't understand what's the big deal with the start/stop button, It's been mentioned on plenty of reviews. You don't even have to press it twice... If the engine goes to ready when you park, unbuckle, then open your door and lock. Everything just shuts off when you lock the car. I've never had to press the button twice unless I'm trying to put the windshield wipers up or something.
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08-18-2015, 02:07 PM | #48 |
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All three are so close in terms of performance that I think it comes down to a matter of personal preference. On the street, it would be difficult to realize these micro second differences.
with that said, I'd take the C63. It's classy, and a sleeper. The M3 looks too flamboyant and screams "look at meee I'm fast!!!". The Cadillac is ugly as hell. |
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We should take these comparisons for what they really are, opinions. When majority of the scoring is subjective, I don't think we should put much weight in the final placings. Heck, the last comparison I saw on these same 3 cars, had the M3 in last place! I am a BMW fanatic, but I would choose the AMG over the other 2 in a heartbeat. I am not saying the C63 is superior, and I would not be tracking my car or trying to approach anywhere near the limits, I would choose the C63 just because of the thundering V8 and the gorgeous interior.
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Finally, someone else sees it the same way I do. This is the furthest thing from a win for the M3/M4. |
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Different enthusiasts care about different things. For example, the vast majority of us don't track our cars and thus put a lot of weight into the overall package and value. You can't go wrong with any of these cars. The fact that each has had victories in various comparison tests is a clear indicator of how close things are between them. |
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Interestingly is how the BMW fell short on chassis( even with the lowest weight and carbon fiber goodness) and engine and brakes even with those CCBs. It won largely due to having the smallest engine and thus 3 points bonus for fuel economy over the other two( this likely has been previously mentioned, I haven't read every post yet).
Though I will likely still pick up an F80 next regardless, as the Cadillac is hideously ugly and the merc is just not my style albeit compelling I hope BMW takes notice of it's relatively mediocre reception of the new M3 over the previous generations( across almost every comparo) and really picks it up for the next generation. Electric turbos(no choice here) more carbon fiber(like a CF tub please), and a more visceral experience for the senses |
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Things that stick out to me -
1. Max sound level during full throttle - M3 at 89 and MB at 78? How can all the rave reviews about the MB sound yet the sound level is this low? Can that be right. There's a huge difference between these 2 values. 2. All cars are close performance. I just like how BMW makes their M3 subtle enough that a grown up could drive it and not feel like they are having a mid life crisis. The ATS just looks like a kid's car. And the interior is just too cheap. I love what GM is doing but they have to get the styling and quality up. |
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That's how the E9X won it's comparisons too. You'd think these wannabes would catch on. Maybe you could explain the difference in how pulling 1.02 g differs from pulling .98 g?
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1. How loud a car is does not equate to how good it sounds. 2. The M3 does not have a grown up look. Its why kids love it. |
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