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      08-26-2014, 08:58 PM   #89
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Dealer showed me an M4 with ceramics that has a sticker of $90k! OMFG! He showed me another one reasonably equipped for $75k. I think I'll wait 3 years until the expensive ones roll around for the same price as the cheap ones. I can't believe you can add $25k in options. That's practically at the price of my '11 997 turbo and can't come remotely close to the performance.
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do you even have a F80 with just full leather as the only option? I find this very hard to believe. The point is, not many people want to forgo other options. Most configurations are close to 80k OTD. However, if you have full leather as your only option, condolences.
Dude, I'm moving to CA in a few months and can't WAIT to try whatever you're smoking right now.

We are talking about a hypothetical build, a "base" model which includes leather. You're saying an 80k "base" car should have leather, this is not an 80k "base" car. But if you only added leather, then yes, you would have leather on a car for roughly 71k, much less than this magic number of 80k you came up with.
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      08-26-2014, 10:05 PM   #93
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      08-26-2014, 11:28 PM   #94
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Dude, I'm moving to CA in a few months and can't WAIT to try whatever you're smoking right now.

We are talking about a hypothetical build, a "base" model which includes leather. You're saying an 80k "base" car should have leather, this is not an 80k "base" car. But if you only added leather, then yes, you would have leather on a car for roughly 71k, much less than this magic number of 80k you came up with.
I never stated 80k base car sonny. Re-read my posts. Again, most people will configure their car with more than just full leather as the only option. In CA, tax is almost 10% as well in most areas.
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I never stated 80k base car sonny. Re-read my posts. Again, most people will configure their car with more than just full leather as the only option. In CA, tax is almost 10% as well in most areas.
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The full leather is not an upgrade in my view. It should come as standard on an 80k out the door car.

Again, I ask you to show us how to configure an M3 or M4 to $80K out the door with CA tax that you can't have full leather.
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      08-27-2014, 12:04 AM   #96
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I have never regretted taking any option with any of my cars. I have always regretted not taking the ones I didn't take. So with my next car -which will be an M4- I'm getting every single option, except CCB and "Concierge". I will probably regret that I'm not getting CCB, but it's just too expensive.
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I have never regretted taking any option with any of my cars. I have always regretted not taking the ones I didn't take. So with my next car -which will be an M4- I'm getting every single option, except CCB and "Concierge". I will probably regret that I'm not getting CCB, but it's just too expensive.
I like the way you roll!

With me, I really love the full leather I don't have, and I hate the lights I do have. The car was not optioned by me though. A thing that drives me insane.

Still love my Peter II but fuck I hate dealers.
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      08-27-2014, 09:22 AM   #98
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I never stated 80k base car sonny. Re-read my posts. Again, most people will configure their car with more than just full leather as the only option. In CA, tax is almost 10% as well in most areas.
Read Sir Loin's post.

So you went from talking about a "base" model for 80k (you do realize a base model is generally a stripper, right?) to talking about a customer adding options to the car... that's directly contradicting your exact argument. Thank you for defeating yourself, someone had to.

(from 7% to 10% is ~2k raising my calculation to $73,205 for a "base" with leather)
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I regret getting adaptive suspension. Comfort mode isnt more comfortable it's just more bouncy/floaty. I pretty much leave the suspension in Sport 99% of the time. I wish I had spent the $1000 in the drivers assistance package instead
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I regret getting adaptive suspension. Comfort mode isnt more comfortable it's just more bouncy/floaty. I pretty much leave the suspension in Sport 99% of the time. I wish I had spent the $1000 in the drivers assistance package instead
Respectfully offer the opposite perspective. I have several roadways nearby that are literally a non-stop torn up undulating piece of crap roadway under construction for .25-.5 mile.

I can go from sport to comfort on these roadways and feel a notable decrease in sharp impacts, "edges", and discomfort. Now it doesn't become a 5-series or 7-series, and it's still not smooth, but it makes a difference. And it's immediately noticeable in those conditions.
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Base M3/M4 with no option with cloth seats is less than $65K, even with $5K tax it is still less than $70K out the door. How would you configure your car to $80K with tax and still can't get full leather?
I'm on BMW's website and built an $87k m3 with just extended leather. That's not including tax.

So I'd say it's pretty possible to build an m3 under or over $80k without full leather.

Maybe I mis-read somthing - was the argument that you can EASILY build an m3 for under $80k OTD with full leather? If so, yes, that's correct. I've got a $66.5k m3 with full leather in front of me right now
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Very Very good post Sir, especially for those of us who haven't ordered their cars.

Given the fact that many of the options I had on my E92 are standard on the new car makes it an awesome starter.

However, on the E9X M3 at the time of my order CA and PDC were stand alone options which are must haves for me. To get these I am forced to go with Exec Pack. LEDs are something I know I will regret not getting.

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      08-27-2014, 11:24 AM   #103
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I'm on BMW's website and built an $87k m3 with just extended leather. That's not including tax.

So I'd say it's pretty possible to build an m3 under or over $80k without full leather.

Maybe I mis-read somthing - was the argument that you can EASILY build an m3 for under $80k OTD with full leather? If so, yes, that's correct. I've got a $66.5k m3 with full leather in front of me right now
Yes, Joe. 2sporty's complaint is that you Full Leather should be standard on an $80K OTD car. As we all know, Full Leather or even Extended Leather are not standard on M3 at $62K. But if Full Leather is a priority, an option you must have, an option that you make it standard to your car, you would choose it over other packages and options. In order to configure a new M car to $80K OTD yet without Full Leather, you will have to go way out of your way to choose a few other options or packages over Full Leather to get it to over $80K OTD and without Full Leather. That contradicts with his statement that Full Leather should be standard, because in this no Full Leather $80K OTD configuration, the car has other self-made standard features but Full Leather is not included. So what is it? Full Leather should be standard, or Full Leather and a bunch of other options should be standard?

I don't think 2sporty is intentional trolling. He made his original, generalized statement without taking a look at the pricing guide, and we pointed out to him it is not true. It appeared that he had to keep defending his statement but unable to show us how he would configure a car to $80K OTD without Full Leather. I guess it is because he can't. And if he did, we would point out that he has other options ahead of Full Leather and invalidate his original statement.

A better approach would be to just study the pricing guide, realized it is possible, and say "yes, you actually can include Full Leather in an $80K OTD car. Thanks!"
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      08-27-2014, 11:32 AM   #104
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Very Very good post Sir, especially for those of us who haven't ordered their cars.

Given the fact that many of the options I had on my E92 are standard on the new car makes it an awesome starter.

However, on the E9X M3 at the time of my order CA and PDC were stand alone options which are must haves for me. To get these I am forced to go with Exec Pack. LEDs are something I know I will regret not getting.

So here she is:
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MSRP: 77,025 + plus our lovely WA State Tax
Hi TTG. Comfort Access is a little weird for me. with my old E46 M3 and my Volvo and Audi, they all have keyless entry, as in I can lock and unlock the car by pressing a button on the key fob. Now with CA, I turn off the car, get out, close the door, walk away, about to pull my key fob out, and then realize that I should have just touch the door to lock it. Now I have to walk back to the car to lock it. Whereas before, I close the door, start walking away, and then lock the car remotely with the key fob. I could still do that, but instead of having the key fob already in my hand (because I would have just shut off the car by pulling the key out of the steering column), I have to dig it out of my unwashed super tight ass raw denim designer jeans . So, I walk back to the car, touch the door to lock it, and start walking away again.

First world problem... I will get used to it.
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One thing I would absolutely 1000% do is get the 18" wheels. They look so much better than the 19s. I think it's one of the best designs BMW has ever had on a wheel and it makes the tires look beefy and sporty.

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because I would have just shut off the car by pulling the key out of the steering column), I have to dig the enormous, bulging key out of my unwashed super tight ass raw denim designer jeans . So, I walk back to the car, touch the door to lock it, and start walking away again.

First world problem... I will get used to it.
Fixed that for you. I find the only place to keep this key is either in my hand, in my european man bag, or hand it to my wife to carry. It won't fit in my pockets.
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Fixed that for you. I find the only place to keep this key is either in my hand, in my european man bag, or hand it to my wife to carry. It won't fit in my pockets.
Yes, the key fob is unnecessarily large. When I have it in my tight ass jeans, it looks like I have hip tumor, or some weird ass penis.
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One thing I would absolutely 1000% do is get the 18" wheels. They look so much better than the 19s. I think it's one of the best designs BMW has ever had on a wheel and it makes the tires look beefy and sporty.

http://instagram.com/p/sL0NGfJ5q6/?modal=true
18's look tiny on the car. 19's are the way to go.
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Fixed that for you. I find the only place to keep this key is either in my hand, in my european man bag, or hand it to my wife to carry. It won't fit in my pockets.
Yes, the key fob is unnecessarily large. When I have it in my tight ass jeans, it looks like I have hip tumor, or some weird ass penis.
Ummmm how tight are these jeans. What's going on in Florida
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One thing I would absolutely 1000% do is get the 18" wheels. They look so much better than the 19s. I think it's one of the best designs BMW has ever had on a wheel and it makes the tires look beefy and sporty.

http://instagram.com/p/sL0NGfJ5q6/?modal=true
If they made the 18" style in a 19", I would have ordered them...
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