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      05-21-2019, 11:41 AM   #1
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Ready for turbo upgrade...

Thinking of raising the power from stage 2 tune , full exhaust to pure turbo's etc.. .how much does the complete job cost , including installation [IMG]undefined[/IMG][IMG]undefined[/IMG]
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Labor prices are going to vary based off what your local shops charge for install/ labor rates.

Here is a good healthy example of a Pure stage II car on stock DCT clutch packs. E85 tuning is the way to go for good power if you have that available by you. I would recommend the following, downpipes, NGK spark plus, aftermarket chargepipes, and a meth kit. All of that combined with a stage II can get you to 700whp reliably. Feel free to shoot me a PM for a breakdown on everything.

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awesome thanks....625 to 650 at the wheels on 93 is what I'm shooting for, have the ngk plugs gapped to 23...cause I wasn't runninge85, charge pipes, downpipes and CSF intercooler, full exhaust...no crank hub mod etc yet?
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awesome thanks....625 to 650 at the wheels on 93 is what I'm shooting for, have the ngk plugs gapped to 23...cause I wasn't runninge85, charge pipes, downpipes and CSF intercooler, full exhaust...no crank hub mod etc yet?
Thats a realistic goal on 93 octane. Looks like you are mostly there on the mods you already have, I would just add on a meth kit to the list.
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https://www.kiesmotorsports.com/prod...72937843?aff=7

He’s done a few installs. Drove one myself. Amazing upgrade. I say do it.
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[IMG]undefined[/IMG]....not cheap, but I'm tired of hearing smack talk from modded Camaro ZL1 and c7 zo6....etc. I'm in Houston, any recommendations
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Do it... Keep it a secret from the Chevy guys
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Do it... Keep it a secret from the Chevy guys
Pure turbos are made from the stock turbo cores so visually from the outside, turbos look exactly the same.
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yes, I think I could beat them if they were stock...but I saw vids of pure turbo m3/4 killing vettes etc...its time to level the playing field
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Just do it, PS2+ here and very happy with the outcome. I made 592whp on 93oct on a Mustang Dyno, low reading dyno. You'll be happy.
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You can pick up a used pure turbo pretty cheap on the forum. I saw two for sale without trading your core around 3500. Pure turbo high flow will make enough power for you, the stage 2 plus only work good when you push over 30psi.

My car at autotalent right now getting the pure turbo, fuel it PI with stage 4 fuel pump, SSP dct clutch upgrade and Brembo GT bbk. Hope to hit over 750whp and 700tq with the E85.
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OP, you'll know you're ready when you've actually done your homework, and have gotten labor quotes from one or two local tuning shops. Not sure why I'm seeing a trend of people asking for advice on certain topics (turbos, roll cage, selling) then proceed to attach photos (irrelevant) of their car like it's supposed to leave an impression on anyone.

My apologies in advance, and I don't mean to be harsh, but most of us are M owners here, so chances are we've seen heavily modified cars that are far more impressive. But hey, if you just want to share photos of your car, the best avenue for that is in Photos/Videos, where you can upload random shots all day. That would be the better place to share photos of your pride and joy than in the Engine/Drivetrain/Exhaust/Bolt-ons/Tuning technical section.

Please prove me wrong. I would love to actually see people pull the trigger on upgraded turbos. It's hard to go wrong with Kratos, VTT, or Pure turbos, so it's just a matter of execution from this point.
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Thanks, very impessive
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Just do it, PS2+ here and very happy with the outcome. I made 592whp on 93oct on a Mustang Dyno, low reading dyno. You'll be happy.
Awesome, I'm looking forward to the upgrade
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You can pick up a used pure turbo pretty cheap on the forum. I saw two for sale without trading your core around 3500. Pure turbo high flow will make enough power for you, the stage 2 plus only work good when you push over 30psi.

My car at autotalent right now getting the pure turbo, fuel it PI with stage 4 fuel pump, SSP dct clutch upgrade and Brembo GT bbk. Hope to hit over 750whp and 700tq with the E85.
Priceless information, much appreciated ...looking to stay in the 650rwhp range, very helpful
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OP, you'll know you're ready when you've actually done your homework, and have gotten labor quotes from one or two local tuning shops. Not sure why I'm seeing a trend of people asking for advice on certain topics (turbos, roll cage, selling) then proceed to attach photos (irrelevant) of their car like it's supposed to leave an impression on anyone.

My apologies in advance, and I don't mean to be harsh, but most of us are M owners here, so chances are we've seen heavily modified cars that are far more impressive. But hey, if you just want to share photos of your car, the best avenue for that is in Photos/Videos, where you can upload random shots all day. That would be the better place to share photos of your pride and joy than in the Engine/Drivetrain/Exhaust/Bolt-ons/Tuning technical section.

Please prove me wrong. I would love to actually see people pull the trigger on upgraded turbos. It's hard to go wrong with Kratos, VTT, or Pure turbos, so it's just a matter of execution from this point.
Please keep your negative views...I have nothing to prove to you are anyone about how I choose to modify my car...
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Please keep your negative views...I have nothing to prove to you are anyone about how I choose to modify my car...
No pressure, I'm just being realistic. More than half of the forum's population are all talk when it comes to big boy upgrades. The ones who actually pull the trigger do not ask about turbo upgrades. They either consult directly with a shop or tuner of their choice, or do their own homework.

Again, I'm hoping you're not another one of those guys. I know tuning shops refrain from calling customers out in fear of backlash, but I'm neither a vendor nor performance shop, so I don't mind being labeled the bad guy if it means calling things as I see it.

How exactly does sharing photos of your car tie into a turbo upgrade inquiry anyway? The F80/F82 engine bay is the same no matter what carbon fiber bits and stickers you have on the car... just saying.
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There are no non shops here in my area specifically for such mods...and I don't owe you any explanation...last time I'm responding to you. get a life .. fix your car you up or something
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There are no non shops here in my area specifically for such mods...and I don't owe you any explanation...last time I'm responding to you. get a life .. fix your car you up or something
It's pretty clear now why you would be bothered by camaros and vette guys talking smack. you seem to be incredibly sensitive. Sensitive enough to spend thousands of dollars because you don't like what strangers say about your car.

Good luck with your upgrades.
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Thanks for the advice fellas...don't want to push it to the point where the engine is stressed to far, I think 700+ at the wheels...nearly double the stock flywheel power 425/450 is to much...with out considering a rebuild , Rods, pistons , crank ...head work etc..600 to 650 may last longer in the reliability column
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[IMG]undefined[/IMG]....not cheap, but I'm tired of hearing smack talk from modded Camaro ZL1 and c7 zo6....etc. I'm in Houston, any recommendations
Extreme offroad & performance are great off i10 in Katy. They do work on a friends Raptor and Maserati
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ok thanks, I'll look them up...much appreciated
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