M3/M4 Wheels

[Suave]

Originally Posted by filip75

What are the sizes for the M4 wheels? I think I've seen them before, but now I can't find them. I'm thinking of asking for a set for my birthday, but I can't until I know the sizes.

It would be nice to have them ready before I even pick up the car. This way they can be mounted right away.

I want to get the stock 19 sizes, so I can swap the OE tires on them.

Why not just order the car with the optional 19s? Unless you are planning on using the 18s for winter rubber don't get it if you say you are going for stock 19s. What is your goal?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Suave

Why not just order the car with the optional 19s? Unless you are planning on using the 18s for winter rubber don't get it if you say you are going for stock 19s. What is your goal?

I think you misread. He said he wants to ask (for his Birthday) for wheels in the stock 19" size, not for the stock 19" wheels themselves.

[Black Gold]

impossible at this point without knowing offsets

[sylonien]

Wonder if these wheels will fit the E92 M3?
They remind me of the M5/6 wheels.
Always wanted them but didn't want to go 20" or replicas.

[GregW / Oregon]

Bet the offsets are very close. We've already seen the E92 wheels on the F82.

[///M5Bruno]

20's are mandatory for me. I mean even the 991, Cayman and Boxster have 20's. I think they will offer them like the set on the Prototype car up in Carmel. I saw it in person. It was stunning!

[MrBeranek]

I know it´s bit too early to guess, since we don´t know the ET of the new M4 19" wheels, but I was just wondering, whether the E92 M3 Competition Package wheels (359 M) would fit the F82 M4.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by gee-m-w

I think people want to know the offsets. We see it's a 19" x 9" in the front and 19" x 10" in the rear.

275/40 18" is a much taller tire than BMW has used on previous cars like the E90. This is 26.7" in the rear, compared to 25.0" for E90 sizes. 255/40 18" for the fronts is a 26.0" tire.

The E9X M3s with 18s came with 245/40 and 265/40 tires.

Going to 255/40 and 275/40 on 18s only increases the diameter by about 8mm (0.31"). The 19s would increase by about 7mm (0.28"). Not sure where you are getting the extra 1.7" from .

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Bet the offsets are very close. We've already seen the E92 wheels on the F82.

Good point.

I am hoping my E92 track wheels will fit the F8X.

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Good point.

I am hoping my E92 track wheels will fit the F8X.

that was a very good observation.

I wonder what the e9x comp wheels would look like on the new m3? that could be a good option as well, but likely they will need a spacer to fit well, so that may not be an option.

I am anxious to see what the oem 18s look like

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

I wonder what the e9x comp wheels would look like on the new m3? that could be a good option as well, but likely they will need a spacer to fit well, so that may not be an option.

Actually, those last generation ZCP wheels (style 359M) would appear to be the best candidate among the E9x M3 OEM wheels given that they are 19" diameter with 9" wide front and 10" wide rear which match the new F8x style 437M 19" wheel exactly. The standard E9x M3 style 220M 19s as well as the style 219M 18s, on the other hand, are 8.5"/9.5" width F/R.

Of course you can easily put a 255 tire on an 8.5" wide wheel, and similarly a 275mm tire will fit a 9.5" wheel. So you can run F8x OEM width tires on any of the older M3 wheels. But, given that the 359M have an additional 12.7mm of width compared to the 220M which yields 6.35mm of additional width each side of center, and the fact that they are only offset 2mm more than the 220M, its almost like running a 5mm spacer compared to the 220M as far as where the outside edge of the wheel will sit. That's likely to be a win as far as coming in close to look of the 437M OEM wheel. In other words, whatever the offset of the new wheels is, the old ZCP wheel is likely going to come the closest to it.

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Actually, those last generation ZCP wheels (style 359M) would appear to be the best candidate among the E9x M3 OEM wheels given that they are 19" diameter with 9" wide front and 10" wide rear which match the new F8x style 437M 19" wheel exactly. The standard E9x M3 style 220M 19s as well as the style 219M 18s, on the other hand, are 8.5"/9.5" width F/R.

Of course you can easily put a 255 tire on an 8.5" wide wheel, and similarly a 275mm tire will fit a 9.5" wheel. So you can run F8x OEM width tires on any of the older M3 wheels. But, given that the 359M have an additional 12.7mm of width compared to the 220M which yields 6.35mm of additional width each side of center, and the fact that they are only offset 2mm more than the 220M, its almost like running a 5mm spacer compared to the 220M as far as where the outside edge of the wheel will sit. That's likely to be a win as far as coming in close to look of the 437M OEM wheel. In other words, whatever the offset of the new wheels is, the old ZCP wheel is likely going to come the closest to it.

agree

many people run spacers on the 220m wheels, so that may also be the case on the 359m should you want a less sunk-in look.

personally, the fitment on the 359m on the m3 is even a little sunk in for my taste, and the 220m definitely is. so I was just saying that to get a good fitment, a spacer may be required where arguably it isn't on the e9x

good post though. I am very glad about the extra half inch on the wheels, I greatly prefer a firmer sidewall from a wider wheel

[s4play]

Been looking around for the stock 18 and 19" wheel specs...

Anyone have ideas on the stock size rim, width, offset and tire sizes?


thanks!

[Black Gold]

The widths of 18s and 19s are 9"/10" front /rear. Tire size is 255/275

[s4play]

^Thanks! The key is the offsets I think....

Trying to see if my e90/92 m3 wheels/tires will interchange onto this new M3

[Money2536]

Originally Posted by s4play

^Thanks! The key is the offsets I think....

Trying to see if my e90/92 m3 wheels/tires will interchange onto this new M3

I doubt it, if the new car is anything like the F30 3 series. I was going to keep my Klassens for the E92 when I sold it to put on F80 M3 but didn't think they would fit. I guess we'll see.

[s4play]

I just read in this same thread someone said the wheel bolts might be larger??? That's a first for BMW, why would they do that?

We need to know the factory offsets to go further on wheel selection and hopefully BMW kept their 5x120 lug pattern.

I guess to get a rough idea, does anyone know the F30 3-series wheel offsets?

[karussell]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

I am going with the CCB's as it will be the same money (or there about) as going with an aftermarket BBK.I have clients that have a 996 GT3 with CCB 's on it and they have not had any issues with the discs and they have tracked the car a lot.They have done pads twice on it.Considering that I need to do front rotor rings every 10-12 days I think the CCB's might be the way to go in the long run.The newer Porsche CCB's do not have the problems that the early CCB's did on their cars from what we have seen.Yes you need to handle them carefully compared to a steel disc.

you go through a set of pads on ccb rotors with the porsche in one weekend with tc off. if its on the rears will be done in a day. the oem pad will be soft as prolong the life of the ccb's. but they will wear down quickly with track use. the option price will be roughly half the replacement cost of the rotors given they are the same manufacturer and design as porsche, mb, ferrari, brembo layered ceramic rotors. the friction layer is incredibly thin. do more research.

[kaashia]

Just saw this on the pricing guide for the UK M3/4. And this is the picture of the 19' wheel options I saw.



So both color options are 2-tone!?!?!?!?!?

It would have been nice to have an all black and/or all aluminum wheel color.

[parky1215]

Gray one is not bad. That's one that I will be choosing. However, black one looks bad. Silver part on black wheel should be darker if they insist going with two tone. It seems it's too shiny and shows too much contrast.

[Jockey]

If you look at the auto show pictures, the grey wheels look one color. It's the black wheels that are two-tone (which is lame).

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by kaashia

Just saw this on the pricing guide for the UK M3/4. And this is the picture of the 19' wheel options I saw.



So both color options are 2-tone!?!?!?!?!?

It would have been nice to have an all black and/or all aluminum wheel color.

This looks like a photoshop gone wrong to me. The black wheel must be completely black like on the M5. I think in the photoshop they are trying to show the reflection of the gloss and that's what makes it looks two-tone.