11-26-2022, 10:40 AM | #21319 | |
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Curious as to why you’d want a T over a GT4 still though, maybe I missed it. Feel that would be a perfect car for you and all the track days you do. I know hard to find but nice used CPO ones pop up that are cheaper than a T with more power and better brakes stock. |
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11-26-2022, 11:00 AM | #21320 |
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Right now I look at my GT350 keys on holidays and weekends and pass on taking a spirited drive as often as I go for it. Mainly because the Recaros are about 1” too narrow for me, but also because my track tires (Goodyear 3R) tramline like crazy once they’re a little bit worn. It’s a great track car but not hitting the mark for me as a street car anymore. I’d like something that works well for street and track.
That said, 991.2 T vs. 718 GT4, I could flip a coin. The interior on the 992 feels way more modern and it’s a nicer place to spend time than either of the older cars. The 992 is the only Porsche I sat in that felt like a $100K+ car. |
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11-26-2022, 11:28 AM | #21321 |
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Just a quick spin on the configurator adding the options to the s which are standard on the T and I got a price of $132k which is $16k more than the T. Seems like a great value to me, especially considering the T is a "special" model. Things like the short shifter, rear seat delete, and T interior add that much more specialness to it and you can't option those things on an S.
To each their own though, not sure why so many on here can't comprehend the value of the T. You can literally play the "may as well get the next one up" game with the entire Porsche lineup. Why get an S when a few bucks more gets you a GTS? A well optioned GTS is close to GT3 territory. A loaded GT3 is Turbo territory. The game goes on. No matter what though they are all fantastic cars and more capable than 99% of cars on the road. |
11-26-2022, 11:41 AM | #21322 |
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Some used market data according to CarGurus: the 2019 911 Carrera base averages $100K, the T averages $105K, the S averages $120K and the GTS averages $140K. At those prices the T is a huge performance value over the base Carrera and the price delta between it and the S or GTS is not small, even when used.
P.s. CarGurus reports a 2016 Cayman GT4 is $108K and a 2020 718 Cayman GT4 is $132K. Last edited by Multimodal; 11-26-2022 at 01:17 PM.. |
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11-26-2022, 11:41 AM | #21323 | |
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You are right, I can’t comprehend the value of a supposed special car when it has the same engine and transmission, in this case the lowest form of engine in the line up. It’s what makes the GT3 and turbo models special IMO or the GTS4.0/GT4. Different engine and things you truly can’t get on the lower models. |
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11-26-2022, 11:50 AM | #21324 | |
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Could be though, I’m sure the delta is roughly the same. |
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11-26-2022, 11:57 AM | #21325 |
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We get it man - you hate the T lol. Don't know what else to say, it is what it is take it or leave it. Between the trim levels and options list there is a 911 for everyone. No need to rain on others parade.
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11-26-2022, 12:04 PM | #21326 | |
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I’m sure some will be truly happy and that’s all they want out of car (base/T), but they definitely are designed to prod you to move up the line. I’m sure I’d have a blast with a low spec 7 MT one. I would add in the back seats though. That is the silliest of any of this IMO. Very few would be able to tell by driving them if they were removed or not. Reminds me of the weird option deletions BMW does/did with the CSs. A car that l really really like by the way. Sorry, didn’t mean to offend anyone and thought it would be an easier conversation here. As you’ve probably seen, I haven’t joined the conversation on RL. FWIW, I don’t think my 4S is a special version. |
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11-26-2022, 12:08 PM | #21327 |
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I may be the only one here with a deposit down on a 992 T. I don’t take any offense. The T has always been a controversial model. The aspersions cast by mass market 911 owners will only make us T owners a tighter-knit group. 😂
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11-26-2022, 12:24 PM | #21328 |
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I’m really not trying to do that either. Trust me I have no superiority complex being one rung “higher” than you on the 911 pecking order. We get looked down collectively by a whole shit ton of Porsche purists. At least you’ll have a lighter RWD MT to appease some of them. Remove that cooling system though.
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The turbos are coming off day one, for sure.
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Carrera T - $118,050 S (with/ Sport Plus 4-way, PASM, Sport Exhuast, Sport Chrono, Lightweight Glass) - $130,650 Last edited by M3WC; 11-26-2022 at 05:15 PM.. |
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Another thing, it allowed a number of people to jump the 992 queue by getting on T wait list. The T kinda dropped out of nowhere. Seems like the T could be a very limited run until 992.2 production starts. Quote:
On a side note saw a broker advertise a base 992 in-stock for msrp(someone backed out on their order). Basic build in GT Silver, sold in 24hrs after posting. Last edited by M3WC; 11-26-2022 at 05:31 PM.. |
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