Anyone tried Bilstein B6 damptronic dampers?

SteveChester · 01-08-2021, 04:44 AM

jpy1980 did you take your car in to the garage?

ntg44 · 01-08-2021, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jpy1980

Hey Imran,

Can you confirm that the B6 shocks are the rear shocks for the B16 damptronic kit? I have the B16 kit on my f80 and there could be a possibility that my rear shock is broken (getting errors and chassis restricted errors). Instead of waiting on a warranty repair (which would be unlikely) I just want the rear b16 shock but looking at the installation guide of the B16, it says b6 on the rear install guide. Thoughts?

Thanks

Julian

I had this exact discussion about a year ago, and they are indeed different part numbers, despite what the documentation of the B16 kit says. However I believe the generic B6D is softer than the B16D rear shock, so it may be worthwhile to try a B6D rear set, unless you only want one, in which case you probably don't want to mix and match rears. I also don't know if the generic B6D is longer than the B16D rears, since B6D is technically designed for stock springs, whereas the B16D can be lowered significantly.

jpy1980 · 01-08-2021, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveChester

jpy1980 did you take your car in to the garage?

Not yet! Monday at 11am!

jpy1980 · 01-08-2021, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ntg44

I had this exact discussion about a year ago, and they are indeed different part numbers, despite what the documentation of the B16 kit says. However I believe the generic B6D is softer than the B16D rear shock, so it may be worthwhile to try a B6D rear set, unless you only want one, in which case you probably don't want to mix and match rears. I also don't know if the generic B6D is longer than the B16D rears, since B6D is technically designed for stock springs, whereas the B16D can be lowered significantly.

Hmm if that’s the case and it’s confirmed on monday that I have to replace the shock, I think I’ll just take the coilovers off altogether and just go with a static setup. With all the drama I went through with Bilstein, the harshness of the ride and all their warranty/customer service BS, I’m over Bilstein products.

SteveChester · 01-08-2021, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveChester

jpy1980 did you take your car in to the garage?

Not yet! Monday at 11am!

Sorry I thought you had booked it in already.

SteveChester · 01-08-2021, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ntg44

I had this exact discussion about a year ago, and they are indeed different part numbers, despite what the documentation of the B16 kit says. However I believe the generic B6D is softer than the B16D rear shock, so it may be worthwhile to try a B6D rear set, unless you only want one, in which case you probably don't want to mix and match rears. I also don't know if the generic B6D is longer than the B16D rears, since B6D is technically designed for stock springs, whereas the B16D can be lowered significantly.

Hmm if that’s the case and it’s confirmed on monday that I have to replace the shock, I think I’ll just take the coilovers off altogether and just go with a static setup. With all the drama I went through with Bilstein, the harshness of the ride and all their warranty/customer service BS, I’m over Bilstein products.

I contacted the UK customer support - warranty is basically return to base for a repair or swap - not really much use!

Hoping it's not the shock now!

SteveChester · 01-08-2021, 01:22 PM

I've also asked Demon Tweeks for a price for a replacement shock - in case I can't be bothered with the warranty process.

I'll see what part number comes back.

jpy1980 · 01-08-2021, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveChester

I've also asked Demon Tweeks for a price for a replacement shock - in case I can't be bothered with the warranty process.

I'll see what part number comes back.

If you can ask for the part numbers for the front and the back, please, that would be helpful as my issue is in the rear and yours is in the front. I will also message Bilstein again for the part numbers and to confirm.

jpy1980 · 01-08-2021, 02:50 PM

BTW I got this message from Bilstein regarding the issue and the part numbers

SteveChester · 01-08-2021, 02:51 PM

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I've also asked Demon Tweeks for a price for a replacement shock - in case I can't be bothered with the warranty process.

I'll see what part number comes back.

If you can ask for the part numbers for the front and the back, please, that would be helpful as my issue is in the rear and yours is in the front. I will also message Bilstein again for the part numbers and to confirm.

Yep I'll see what I can find out! Let me know what you find out on Monday as well.

SteveChester · 01-11-2021, 08:09 AM

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Not yet! Monday at 11am!

Hope it goes well today - after a bit of Googling some other posts ( I think you commented on one of them ) seem to suggest that the sensor needs recalibrating via ISTA?

Once I get chance I'll plug my laptop in and see if I can perform this in ISTA - hopefully will fix it!!!

Jims M3 · 01-13-2021, 01:37 PM

I installed B6's on my F80 and got the chasis code as well from the passenger side. I bought new OEM cables and it made no difference. I put in the stock shock and everything was fine again, I sent the B6's back because I thought they were faulty. In retrospect I think they have a L and R side part number and perhaps I put in the wrong one. I didn't get any error from the drivers side though.

GregSM3 · 01-13-2021, 01:41 PM

There definitely is a left and right side. Not sure if that would have thrown a code though. Maybe one of the connections was pinched or not properly connected??

Jims M3 · 01-13-2021, 04:03 PM

I tried the connections with new wires, tried everything no communication with the shock, I put in the stock shock with the original wire no issues.

Makc_420 · 01-14-2021, 02:05 PM

Hey guys. I have just installed the B6 Damptronic kit on my 2018 m3 zcp with european Eibach pro springs and it feels amazing! However, there is one issue - when I took the car for a spin after installation, I have found out that edc doesn’t work correctly. The car is very stiff in Comfort mode (feels like Sport +), comfortable in Sport mode and Sport + is a middle ground. It looks like edc settings got twisted somehow. I have asked the guys who installed the shocks why it is this way and they told me that it can’t be their mistake as they have already installed several similar kits and OEM shocks for edc cars and never had any problems. Do you know what might be the issue? Could the presets in the shocks be incorrect? Can edc be somehow adjusted to fix the issue? Please let me know. Thank you 🙏🏼

jpy1980 · 01-14-2021, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Makc_420

Hey guys. I have just installed the B6 Damptronic kit on my 2018 m3 zcp with european Eibach pro springs and it feels amazing! However, there is one issue - when I took the car for a spin after installation, I have found out that edc doesn’t work correctly. The car is very stiff in Comfort mode (feels like Sport +), comfortable in Sport mode and Sport + is a middle ground. It looks like edc settings got twisted somehow. I have asked the guys who installed the shocks why it is this way and they told me that it can’t be their mistake as they have already installed several similar kits and OEM shocks for edc cars and never had any problems. Do you know what might be the issue? Could the presets in the shocks be incorrect? Can edc be somehow adjusted to fix the issue? Please let me know. Thank you 🙏🏼

Sounds like an installation error and possibly reverse polarity?. Most of the connection you can check yourself. You should check. Also run a scan to see if there are any codes

Makc_420 · 01-14-2021, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jpy1980

Sounds like an installation error and possibly reverse polarity?. Most of the connection you can check yourself. You should check. Also run a scan to see if there are any codes

Thanks for the advise. We will check the connections.

mdlex389 · 02-23-2021, 10:51 AM

How are you guys liking this setup after a few months? I am thinking about pulling the trigger.

Also, where can I find the shocks? They seem to be backordered everywhere. I am in the US.

Jims M3 · 05-05-2021, 09:00 AM

I was thinking of trying these again, rears are in stock at Rock Auto I heard they are getting fronts this month. You can register to be notified when they come back into stock.

Imran@Evolve · 07-01-2021, 06:07 AM

We have them in stock if anyone is still struggling to find a set.

LYTSOUT · 09-09-2021, 07:58 AM

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B6 not compatible with MP HAS hardware. For B6 MSS HAS or any other lowering spring is compatible, although they are designed for stock height springs.

Why aren't they compatible?

OEM springs/OEM dampers: compatible
MP HAS/OEM dampers: compatible
OEM springs/B6 damptronics: compatible
MP HAS/B6 Damptronics: NOT compatible??

I'm not arguing with you b/c I don't have any knowledge of these dampers, but that doesn't make much sense to me.

Also, Imran@Evolve did you ever get custom B6's to match with the MSS HAS kit?

spidy512 · 09-09-2021, 09:27 AM

heya,

Possibly it is the overall diameter of the shock body? The OEM shocks have aluminum bodies where the Bilsteins I believe are steel (my B16's on my f22 were steel).

With that in mind the collars for the front shocks would be too big for the narrower Bilstein's?

just thinking out loud...

josh

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Jims M3 First Lieutenant 454 Rep 312 Posts Drives: F95 X5M, F80 M3, C7 Z51 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Aledo, TX iTrader: (1)	I installed B6's on my F80 and got the chasis code as well from the passenger side. I bought new OEM cables and it made no difference. I put in the stock shock and everything was fine again, I sent the B6's back because I thought they were faulty. In retrospect I think they have a L and R side part number and perhaps I put in the wrong one. I didn't get any error from the drivers side though.
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GregSM3 Private First Class 83 Rep 197 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 ZCP Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	There definitely is a left and right side. Not sure if that would have thrown a code though. Maybe one of the connections was pinched or not properly connected??
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Makc_420 Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: 2018 Bmw f80 M3 ZCP Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Prague, Czech Republic iTrader: (0)	Bilstein B6 edc question Hey guys. I have just installed the B6 Damptronic kit on my 2018 m3 zcp with european Eibach pro springs and it feels amazing! However, there is one issue - when I took the car for a spin after installation, I have found out that edc doesn’t work correctly. The car is very stiff in Comfort mode (feels like Sport +), comfortable in Sport mode and Sport + is a middle ground. It looks like edc settings got twisted somehow. I have asked the guys who installed the shocks why it is this way and they told me that it can’t be their mistake as they have already installed several similar kits and OEM shocks for edc cars and never had any problems. Do you know what might be the issue? Could the presets in the shocks be incorrect? Can edc be somehow adjusted to fix the issue? Please let me know. Thank you 🙏🏼
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spidy512 Captain 492 Rep 688 Posts Drives: 2015 f80 M3 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: East Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW M3 [0.00]	heya, Possibly it is the overall diameter of the shock body? The OEM shocks have aluminum bodies where the Bilsteins I believe are steel (my B16's on my f22 were steel). With that in mind the collars for the front shocks would be too big for the narrower Bilstein's? just thinking out loud... josh
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