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My car for example makes only 350 RWTQ at 5,252 RPM, but continues to make that amount of torque all the way to 8,600 RPM. That equates to nearly 600 RWHP. Sure you can make 600 RWHP at 5,000 RPM on a different motor/platform, however in that scenario torque will have to be sooo high that much of it will be lost spinning tires and chassis deflection.
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05-22-2013, 03:19 PM | #68 |
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why it still has that fugly ass exhaust. Can BMW make it look nice so you don't see the whole exhaust hanging behind. The current m3 has it and it makes the car look so ugly from the rear.
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05-22-2013, 03:36 PM | #69 |
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Heres my question. It looks like this car has a true BBK. (4 Piston rear caliper rather than floating caliper)
So why are they not offering the rear 4 piston caliper on the M6 Ceramic Kit? |
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I remember a member of this forum wrote a comment about the possibility of a high rpm(8000 or so) turbo 6 in the upcoming M3 a year or so ago and he/she got flamed for the comment. I guess that person was on to something.
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I created a new graph assuming HP will be 450 (not 415) and I also put in a 50 lb-ft overboost feature similar to the E90/E92 335is for comparison.
As you can see this new power plant will be very potent, but definitely not a top end screamer as its predecessor as horsepower plateaus around 5,500 rpm. That sprint to redline wont yield any more power. Almost seems as if BMW artificially created a high redline to appeal to the normally aspirated gearheads/magazines. Regards, HMR. Last edited by HouseMusicRules; 05-22-2013 at 04:56 PM.. |
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Not many, but you said the same thing about the M3
As goes the redline, can't believe how much surprise there is about this. Clearly it was always going to be higher than the M5 so c.7,800 was entirely expected. And I'll continue to expect 440-460PS, 420PS sounds too low just just like the previous redline "insider rumors". Most important thing is the weight loss though, it'll get the M3 closer to what it was. |
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all m engines follow one another. this will be just a S63 with 2 cyl less, 100hp less and more or less similar redline give or take 500rpm. why is this news?
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I'm starting to get intrigued...and that's right where they want me. NEWMAN!
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A large torque drop off at redline is what happens to virtually every car out there. This includes powerful motors in very fast cars like what is in the AMGs or Chevy's LS-variant motors. The exception is stuff like what is seen in the exotic N/A motors in Ferrari's, Lambos, and even in a couple non-exotics like the Acura NSX, Honda S2000 and the previous and current gen M3's. Just different ways of making power - and I think that's what you are referring to.
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Based on the power curves of the N54 / N55 motors. BMW has been very consistent with how they use turbos.
Didn't I mention it would be a very potent motor? |
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The E92 is a beautiful car, I really hope this next generation lives up to it. Hard to tell from the current pictures but I'm not really a huge fan of the new headlight design and the side-view mirrors look horrible (though I assume they are not the real production mirrors). I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the real thing looks like.
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BMW has a particular way of deciding which of their cars will have a proper set of fixed-piston calipers or not -like the 135i and not the M3, or the half-ass M5 and M6 even with ceramic rotors.
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Other than the C63... how can anyone compete with this? ...based on performance + appearance.
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Which puts its power around 450hp (current 7-Series is 445hp). |
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